Aha, silly timezones.

Update. It finally looks like we're hitting up Jade's re-introduction.

LET THE SQUIDDLES SLEEP

>>20701980
Jade is so bad at being a creepy boygirl

>>20701980

>Google "Jade Harley"
>See this
>What do

>>20701985
TIme zone Check.
11 pm here

Right I must go to work, can't remember where I found this picture, probably here.

>>20702012

>>20701997

You sir, are a filthy liar.

>>20702021
2:50 am

>>20702021
7:50am here.

4:50pm here.

>>20702021
>candycorn.gif

>>20702021

7:51am

I am not up early.

>>20702021
2:51am

>>20702056
5:50pm here.

>>20702012
Well, at least we know that she got out of Homestuck alright.

>>20702041
East coast representing!

Oh man writerFag is on the same time as me how exciting.

>>20702012

Still need to see John using his Derp as a weapon to fend of attackers.

What is the premise of this webcomic? Why is it so popular? Why does most of the porn I found for it suck? Why does the robot chick not seem to always be a robot? Can any of you convince me to give it a read? Why is it called "Homestuck"? What genre does it fall into?

>>20702105
some kids play a game. No one really likes it for the same reason. Sturgeon's law. Character changes over the course of the plot. Decide for yourself. It's a play on "earthbound". All of them.

>>20702079
Yeah I live nowhere near an oceanic coast.

>>20702105

Well howdy, Mr. Two Neurons!

The utmost base premise is "Kids and fun."

It's so popular because: the author had made an EXTREMELY hilarious and successful series before this one (Problem Sleuth), it's incredibly long, it incorporates flash to make GLORIOUS visual orgasms, and the music is absolutely delicious.

As for porn, you get whatcha get.

Robot chick used to be alive. Shit happened yo.

Unless you're prepared to stick through the whole thing, don't bother. Might want to start Problem Sleuth before you do Homestuck.

It's called Homestuck because the kids are stuck at home playing this a video game to save the world.

Webcomic? Faux-text adventure?

>>20702105
This question will take a lot of words to answer properly.

Homestuck is about four kids who are friends on the Internet. They play a game together, which draws them into a fantastic alternate universe whose fate is intertwined with that of the "real" world. The story uses as its themes the idea of everyday things having symbolic significance in the bigger picture, "inescapable" destiny and whether it is really inescapable, and the power of friendship and family.

Medium-wise, it's a webcomic that looks like one of those old parser adventure games. It used to be that readers could suggest actions and they would be implemented in the story; this has stopped happening in most cases as the author wanted to get the plot moving (although community discussion still influences the plot in more subtle ways). This is supplemented by the occasional high-production-values SWF update, with a complete score and animation, usually several minutes long.

>>20702150

>>20702179 here

HOLY SHIT THAT PUN. WHY DIDNT I SEE IT BEFORE.

>>20702179

I'd skip Problem Sleuth for the moment and read Homestuck first. The pacing for PS is all over the place, and it drags quite badly in the final third. It's fun, but Homestuck is a much more engaging and entertaining read,

>>20702179
T>>20702150
hanks for your answers. I guess this one's better avoided than. Oh well.

>>20702047
>>20702070

GMTbros.

>>20702105

Its a story about 4 kids playing a game. At first you think its shit, but then absolutely everything escalates and becomes infinitely more badass and/or hilarious. Its chock full of weird time travel shit and other nonsense that doesn't make sense the first time you go through it, but makes sense later when you know what was happening from another person perspective. The author got significantly better with making flash animations to the point now where each new one is guaranteed to be outstanding. Plus he updates (usually) daily with like 5 new pages.

The robot chick is really the soul of a girl who died halway through some more plot shit and got a robot body built for her, so people either draw her as the dead-robot, or the alive version.

Its called Homestuck cause at first you think the first kid is stuck in his home.

Its a comic that heavily parodies RPG's and text based adventures.

TL;DR quit your bitchin and read it. Also you should probably read Problem Slueth first.

>>20702105
Homestuck is a webcomic about four kids. They only know eachother across the internet, and each lives in a different timezone of the US, but they're all best friends. One day, on the main character's birthday, the four start to play a game called Sburb. This game, in an incredibly circuitous, time-bending manner which defies all laws of causality, brings about the end of the world through a cataclysmic series of meteor impacts. However, before the kids are taken out by this, they, their homes and their guardians and parents are sucked into the Sburban game world, "The Medium".

Throughout their time playing this game and helping each-other, they are helped from behind the scenes by their guardians, who one-by-one reveal themselves to be capable of superhuman feats.

People who play Sburb have what are called "Dreamselves", entities which wake up in distant reaches of the Medium when the players sleep. One of the characters, Jade Harley, has what is known as a Dreambot, which allows her to interact with the real world at the same time she's in the dream world.

Throughout their adventures, the characters are helped and hindered by a group of 12 "Trolls", troll-like aliens from another time and place who played and beat the game before the main characters. One of the trolls, Aradia Megido, is actually deceased due to events explained in Act 5 of the comic. Her essence currently inhabits a "Soulbot" so that she may interact properly with her surroundings.

As for genre? The creator says it's the webcomic equivalent of a crossover between Earthbound, Spore, and The Sims. You could also say it's action-adventure-romantic-comedy.

OH MY SHIT, UPDATE

>>20702213
>The pacing for PS is all over the place, and it drags quite badly in the final third

but by that time you're already drawn in and you want to find out how it ends

homestuck has these pacing problems... in the first act. before there's really any "hook" or hint of what it's going to be.

>>20702237
STAND BY
Posted on 20 Oct 2010 by Andrew

Might be a couple days before I can get more pages up. I offer neither excuse nor explanation!

>>20702237

that isn't even Hussies art, you are ridiculous.

>>20702174
Our times match up.
That means you must be on eastern time.
You may not be very close to it, but your near it at least.

>>20702213

Homestuck DOES have a deeper narrative to it and much more developed characters, but I love Problem Sleuth because of its inane yet witty humor.

Sure, Hussie brings some of it over into Homestuck but it's really only evident during the Act I or so. I'd say humor begins to take a backseat around Act III and everything starts to get convoluted.

In any case, Problem Sleuth is a lot less overwhelming than Homestuck, and I found that going through PS got me used to HS' style.

>>20702092
If I can stay away from my pot pies long enough I might be able to get an attempt in on this.

Someone needs to throw the John Noping pic my way though

>>20702253
>>20702253
Writerfag is Canadian. Eastern US time is equivalent to Toronto time. And Toronto is pretty far inland.

>>20702105
Kids and fun. Because it is entertaining to a large audience. Because the characters are all thirteen years old. Because she was not always a robot, she is actually a ghost inside of a robot. That really depends on how willing you are to try. Because they are stuck in their homes in a sense, also a play on earthbound. It is kinda a genre all its own, but faux-interactive graphical text adventure? Here is the page meant for new readers http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?viewpage=new

>>20702252
You got me. I just finished it, and my options of revealing it were to simply present it, or to try and troll with it. I CHOSE THE LATTER.

>>20702282
Here you go.

>>20702237
Nice fake bro.

>>20702105
I'm a slow type so by the time you read this there will be 3-4 other answers.

1. Its update 3-4 a day normally.
2. I don't know about the rest of the guys, but i like the odd story line.
3. 4 chan, need I say more.
4. I am guessing you'r talk about Vriska, Long story sort. She died and got a new body.
5. pic relate
6. Its starts with the 4 main character at home playing a beta of a game call Sburb.
7. Sci-fie, comedy is the first 2 that come to mind...

>>20702291
Fucking canada!

>>20702253
Indiana is eastern time, that's fucking landlocked yo. Also canada

>>20702226
> At first you think its shit,

it's amazing how completely hussie seems to have abandoned everything that made homestuck interesting in favor or troll relationship drama. hivebent was cool as a glimpse into an alternate game session, but hussie seems to have taken a liking to the style of just alluding to crazy complexity rather than actually showing it. i really hope i'm wrong, but i also was really expecting things to change back to normal after hivebent (was expecting the trolls to actually vanish from the plot, at least for a while).

if he would just bring Jade in....

>>20702331
Maybe not everyone will, but it's a common reaction. Act One [i]really[/i] drags until timer starts ticking.

>>20702105

writerfag, you still around? I read your end to Veil Death.

It was very silly. Considerably too much "lol madness and cannibalism," considerably too little soft-sadness. Still, can't say I'm unhappy to see that little side-story end any way it can.

>>20702348

Is he done yet? No?

QUIET YER WHININ'

Here's a riddle I have for you /co/... In the recent memo, Karkat more or less implied that Vriska will kill Dave in the future, 3rd-cycle-Dave's hostility towards Vriska seems to confirm this.
My question is, how/why would Vriska kill Dave, especially since she damn well knows it's an empty gesture, due to dream-selves and the fact that he can time travel.
...Actually, could the meaningless of killing Dave be why Vriska does it in the first place? Because she figures that if he's able to have an alternate self, murdering him in a non-final matter is no big deal? Like "I don't get why you're so pissed off, you're still here aren't you????????"

>>20702366
This is why.

>>20702366
perhaps Dave's hostility towards Vriska is for orchestrating the fight between him and future John. We know he is bitter for losing to the derpmonster.

>>20702366
She kills him because Dave (for whatever reason) harms John in the future fight that's been alluded to.

Or something. I don't fucking know.

>>20702405
I really don't think you can seriously accuse Vriska of being capable of successfully organizing jack shit, especially if her opponent is Terezi.

>>20702361
Yeah, I kinda just wrote it out really quickly in between studying.

>>20702348

You expected a man who brings back even the most obscure object to completely abandon fourteen percent of the story? I mean, you honestly thought he'd completly do away with the forces that created our universe that happen to be tangible and observable in a comic about actions of multiversal proportions?

I mean, the hell did you think would happen? We'd get a chapter introducing twelve fleshed out characters who'd simply vanish the moment their chapter would end? That somehow the elements introduced would cease to exist by the time we became used to them? Why the FUCK would you bring yourself to believe something like that?

>>20702405
That raises an interesting question. Dave is rich enough from his Weird Stockmarket Shit to be able to buy every single fraymotif ever. He also has gear alchemised by his future and present selves, as well as three whole days he could be using to hone his skills.

And apparently John is still stronger than him at this point.

Just how the fuck does the Heir of Derp pull this off?

>>20702443
Mangrit. Also spending his time climbing dat echeladder instead of playing stock broker

...Perhaps I was unclear. What I'm trying to say is, that as the Knight of Time, Dave is more or less immortal. Vriska knows this, given that Kanaya mentions that Rose is the only screen that goes black, that means that Vriska can see Dave right until the very end.
Thus, she can't murder the 'real' him, only alternate future-selves. She is perfectly aware of this, and 'kills' him anyway, and likely watches as he's still around.
My question is what reason could she have for doing so?

>>20702443
Through the power of friendship.

>>20702443

I bet he had help. I mean Vriska and Rose are both friendlier to him than anyone else at the moment. Thats the only other player with experience in the medium and one of the scariest players from another session backing him and trading codes while he and Terezi were too busy messing around with video editing. Dave spent so much time being ironic he didn't PLAY well dispite having the skill.

Basically he hipstered himself into a corner.

>>20702443

John's class is known for getting strong at the end of the echeladder. But I agree, three days of preparation in a game where the boss fight lasts a day should leave John at the disadvantage.

>>20702443
Just because John is derp doesn't mean he's not strong. He's the son of a man who lifts a safe over his head like it's it's a birthday cake.
Dave, while cool, is just a twigboy compared to the immense Egbert family mangrit.

>>20702443
No matter how grumpy Dave gets, I doubt that he's keeping it all the money to himself. Especially since it seems that he has so much that it's become essentially meaningless.

>>20702478

Wierd time shennanigans maybe? I guess she thinks the failed universe versions are supposed to ...do something. Maybe they're trying to replicate their own black king victory by zerg rushing past the good bits?

>>20702498
You're forgetting Strider superspeed. Dude is going to hop all over the back of John's head like a school girl playing hopscotch.
And yet
John will win.

Where are we getting the John vs. Dave thing from? I seem to have missed that.

>>20702483
I like this, especially because it seems to confirm my suspicion that from the troll perspective, Vriska was helping John first, and then Terezi stole her thunder.

>>20702421
what
when has a john dave fight been alluded to?

>>20702483
>>20702481
>>20702472
Alright, second question. What song will play during "[S] John/Dave: Strife"?

Personally, I think it might be this:

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/versus

>>20702514
John has area-of-effect strikes, check the end of [S] Enter, the one where Rose enters.

>>20702546
Seems fitting, both the title and the theme. It's even a balance between piano and sick beats, John and Dave's respective instruments.

>>20702544
Terezi and futuredave talking about how he's still stronger than him

Oh boy, am I going to regret this.

John:Naruto::Dave:Sasuke. you know it's true

I just had a thought... Is Rose the type of person to be kind of resentful towards Jade, once Rose finds out about the whole 'Bunny in the Box' and 'Abdicating Royalty' thing Jade inadvertently set in motion?

>>20702574
...Those archetypes have been around like at least a decade before that show bro.

If they do fight
It'll have to be a flash
and it'd have to be set to Valhalah

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004642

This log is where most people are getting the whole "John v Dave" thing.

>>20702574
Maybe in that they are both rivals. Anything else is more of a slant rhyme, if you know what I mean.

>>20702574
nope.avi

>much fooent

>>20702575
Technically Karkat's time shenanigans - John wouldn't have handing the bunnies out otherwise.
But he wouldn't have told John that he was going to do it unless he saw John do it from the future.

:U

>>20701980
Jade would be the best boyfriend ever.

Strider would be an annoying cunt.

Speaking of riddles... What's the deal with Draconian Dignitary/Diamonds Droog? Dignitary created Becquerel for reasons unknown... and could very well be that dog's true master. And Droog... he understands weird time shit better than most of the Felt, and his favored weapon is a Pool Cue which is... auspicious. Could he be a double agent or something?

>>20702605
>have started handing out

Bluh.
>leukemia quisaing
shut up captcha

>>20702617
do we still not have any idea how he knew what was in Rose's journal and that Dave made a copy of Rose's journal and left it by the window?

>>20702617
Maybe he's got this whole thing figured out already and is trying to help Jack. Or stop him.

>>20702617

Two different DD's. Diamonds Droog is an agent of Troll Derse and a Troll Exile. Draconian Dignitary is an agent of the Kid's Derse, and since he wasn't seen among the exiles may have been killed at some point.

So if Bec considers one her Master Diamonds Droog wouldn't be it unless he's somehow using his troll, who doesn't communicate with the kids often anyway, to talk them into things and manipulate his other incarnation by Proxy.

On one hand thats so convoluted it probably wouldn't make any sense. On the other hand it's convoluted so Andrew will probably do it anyway.

>>20702646
Perhaps the dark ones were in on it? Do the citizens of Derse get to hear the dark gods?

Isn't it ironic that John was raised by his brother and Dave was raised by his father

>>20702680
...yes. Yes, it is.

>>20702666
Bec's a dude

>>20702443
>>20702472
>>20702489
It could be John will gain levels from beating Dave. I mean, he could technically have less levels before the fight and then gain a ton for beating another player character. Compared to three days of grinding, the experience total would end in John's favor.

At least in theory. And we all know how Hussie loves our theories.

>>20702680
You've used the word irony correctly!

+ 100xp

>>20702699

Becs an omnipotent space god capable of bending the universe to suit it's will. It can be whatever it damn well pleases at any damn time for however it damned wants.

>>20702673
I... I don't know actually. You'd think so wouldn't you? But the Dark Gods didn't seem to want Becquerel created, seeing as they told Rose to burn her journals.
...Though they could just have arranged circumstances that would end up with the Dignitary possessing the only copy of the Gene Sequence.

I was thinking, what if it's just some fixture of the game that the players will be turned against each other at some point? Like, it happens in every session somehow, and maybe this is the reason we saw Eridan and Sollux fighting for like, half a second in that flash?

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about and need sleep.

>>20702666
Well yeah, but I was asking if DD secretly working for Lord English could actually be that character's base status, like Jack Noir's base status is to stir shit up and try to get rid of the Black Queen.

>>20702739
There's some logic to that. If the kids were to find out how the journals were eventually used, and still had a copy to use for themselves, that'd mean they could add Green Lightning to pretty much anything that'll fit in an alchemizer. There's quite a few ways that could go wrong.

>>20702747

It was over Feferi. Though given they're created and influenced by Spurb it may still be the case. It wouldn't be unbelievable that Spurb WANTS inter player conflict at some point for some weird reason and dumps them in conflicting upbringings.

Just reading that log about Dave's relative power level to John:

GC: Y3S BOTH 4R3 TRU3
GC: 4ND TH3R3 4R3 SOM3 YOU H4V3NT BOUGHT Y3T!
GC: TH4T 1S 1MPORT4NT, W3 N33D TO K33P YOU COMP3T1T1V3 W1TH JOHN
TG: competitive
TG: man
TG: dont matter what i do im not gonna outpace egbert
GC: DONT S4Y TH4T! YOUV3 GOT TO B3L13V3 1N YOURS3LF D4V3
TG: hey its not like the futures a mystery or anything weve both seen it
TG: well
TG: ive seen it
TG: youve just caught a whiff of it
TG: like a hungry beggar loitering cross the street of an olive garden
TG: just cause a filthy vagrants barred from entry dont mean a dude doesnt know italian foods nearby its a fucking fact to his nose
GC: DO NOT D1STR4CT FROM TH3 1SSU3 W1TH YOUR S4SSY R3M4RKS 4BOUT 34RTH 1T4L14N FOOD
GC: Y34H OK, JOHN M4Y S3RV3 YOU YOUR OWN BULG3 ON 4 S1LV3R TURN T4BL3 PR3 SCR4TCH
GC: BUT WH4T 4BOUT 4FT3R TH4T?
GC: W3 N33D YOU TO K33P P4C3

>GC: Y34H OK, JOHN M4Y S3RV3 YOU YOUR OWN BULG3 ON 4 S1LV3R TURN T4BL3 PR3 SCR4TCH

Does this mean there'll be a literal battle between them? Or that Dave can see that John would kick his ass just by observation and comparison.

>>20702498
He's the half BROTHER of a man who is made of mangrit.

>>20702771
The only flaw in this line of thinking is that theoretically, Dave could make all the journals he wants, seeing as he knows the code, and almost definitely had to write it down first.

>>20702771
The dark gods wanting to maintain the One-Guardian-Per-Planet balance would make sense.

>>20702802
Dave is also part of Dersian royalty, and it seems like he has no intentions of using the journals, nor does he know of their significance.

>>20702788
I still kind of wonder who Dad's... dad is. It could be Grandpa Harley, thus hilariously making John and Jade double-related, but I see that as unlikely.

>>20702788
And his father was made of even more mangrit.
That's a hell of a lot of mangrit

>>20702832
dude! That's nana's brother
well maybe not biologically, but they grew up thinking they were

>>20702832
Dad's father is unknown. Grandpa Harley and Nanna Egbert were raised together in the same household as siblings.

So, in the last couple threads, people have been arguing about just who exactly John'll end up with. But the question I have is: who do you think he's best OFF owith?

I mean there's Vriska, a sociopath who has trouble discerning reality from fiction, which has caused both death and severe injury in several of her comrades.

And Rose, A social recluse with mother issues who appears to be slowly going insane due to the whispers of the dark gods. There's also sort of the fact that she wants to cause mass destruction across all of reality.

And of course the plethora of other ships that I'm too lazy to write a bad description for... but the point is: the guy's kind of fucked. He has all these people that want to snog his nob, and they're all batshit insane. It's like a lose lose situation for the guy all the way through.

>>20702784
I'd like to assume the latter, however it's been implied a few times since then that Vriska and Terezi are apparently using John and Dave in something of a proxy war against each other.

Then again, it may be nothing more than a competition between the two Scourge Sisters to see whose chosen human can do the most damage come the big showdown against Lord English.

>>20702809
Nah, that doesn't check out. Seeing as DD obtaining the journal, heading to the Frog Temple, creating Becquerel, and the Frog Temple being sent to Earth during the Reckoning, all seemed to take place pretty quickly. There was no time to create a Second Guardian, plus... The kids have no control over who or what the viewscreen focuses on, and what Paradox Imprint is formed.

>>20702872
John and Dave
forever

>>20702893
John may not be a homosexual, but god knows Strider could seduce the pants off of the Statue of Liberty if he so damn pleased.

>>20702872
I'm pretty sure the unspoken goal of this thread is to see how far we could last without getting into shipping. We managed... a bit over an hour. ...Could be worse.

>>20702888
All the viewscreen did was provide one half of an && alchemization via paradox slime. Or at least that's how I've always interpreted it. Theoretically you could do a standard && alchemization with the journal and produce similar effects.

This has been a sane thread all night...
writerfag is nowhere to be seen...
Coincidence?
no

>>20702872
Not sure where your description of Vriska is coming from... While she's certainly insane, 'sociopath' is inaccurate, and the only evidence of her being unable to separate reality and fiction is her treating both sBurb and sGrub as games. Which honestly? They kind of are.

>>20702946
That's... kind of a scary thought.

>>20702872
Id say Rose, she need the steady noncynical genuine freindship John can provide, where as Vriska needs some one to just like her for her broken self and reinforce her
Johns derp works in favor for one but not the other.
But taht just my opinion

>>20702922
>>20702922
I lol'd, though i'm not sure if it was because your post was really that funny or because it's 4am and i'll probably laugh at anything

>>20702872
I do not mind if John gets fucked over in the end. Either way, my Schadenfreude-O'-Meter is going through the roof if it happens.

Any bets on what happened to Nannasprite? Will it be a 'PSYCHE' on Hussie's part, or has Rose crossed a line?

>>20702893

>>20703044
Maybe she has found a way to go through gates? Future Dave said that is possible. Maybe she is currently chilling with Jaspersprite. Maybe they are having a tea party.

>>20703053
I laughed, and then saved.

Good work anon.

>>20703070
Thanks, it was hours of struggle and hard work saving that from the MSPA forums and posting it here.

>>20703053

Hahaha awesome

>>20703054
That reminds me, does anyone else think its sad that Rose has no time for Jaspersprite's stupidity, even though Jasper was the reason she started playing in the first place?

Andrew, it's four thirteen in the morning, why aren't you updating homestuck?

>>20702955
I'm right here.

>>20703104
None of your damn business is why. He's not going to be updating for a couple days offering 'neither explanation or excuse'. We'll just have to deal with it.

>>20703053

Oh lord.

>>20703105
Okay.
What do you want, an award?

>>20703141
No I'm good. Go back to discussing stuff. :)

>>20703053
Jade/Rose dosent get shipped enough
its criminal
>>20703104
Hes spending a nice romantic night with Betel?Ryan
>>20703141
Wow dood
Ease back, no reason to be a dick

>>20703166

>>20703139
Hey ivan I finished your commission

>>20703161
You realize that Writerfag can't suck your cock through the internet, right? You don't have to white knight so hard.

>>20703161
I was simply asking if she wanted an award.
If someone asked you if you wanted an award, would you accept?

Here have an award.

>>20703184

>>20703178
@_@

>>20703178

Man, it is waaaay to early in the morning for me to be seeing things like that.

>>20703178

I know. I was going to say thank you on skype but I had to go somewhere and when I came back my internet died, but it's back up again!

It's a lovely picture. Thank you~

>>20703151

it kind of makes me uncomfortable when you watch

>>20703178
>thisismyfetish.jpg

>>20703224
No problem, sorry for taking so long, shit got in the way etc

>>20703184
You were just being a cock is all.
But what ever to each his own.
I like Writerfags stuff, you dont.

>>20703178
...I'd hit it. Both of them.

>>20703226
I'm not constantly watching, just checking back in every once and a while. And guys, seriously, all I said was "I'm here" and "I'm good". No need to start fighting.

>>20703256
8 minutes for a response and you quoted the wrong post.
Aiming for the platinum asshat I see.

>>20703292
Oh shit, I have a shot at the Platinum!
Full steam ahead then.

>>20703178
I seen that somewhere before....

>>20703305
If you're aiming for the championship prize, managing to spell every word correctly isn't the way to do it.

>>20703305
The growth of minecraft and dwarffortress threads in /tg/ and /v/ means that we can afford the higher class metals.

>>20703318
You disgust me.

>>20703224
hey Givan when are you gong to voice act Kazerad's bug comic already

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11117656/Nestbound_Kaz.jpg

>>20703328
I figure its better to switch it up.
Raise hopes that i'm improving then dash them to the ground when I write something so incoherent it'll take Nic Cage in a hit movie to decipher it.
Keeps things interesting.

Joking aside can we talkabout the comic again?
I liked the theorys about DD and the MEOW code and Bec.

>>20703366
Here's a theory. Andrew Hussie is a psychopath, and we're all getting dragged into his little game like the underaged twats the Pied Piper lured away.

>>20703348

I dunno. More than likely I won't.

>>20703388
thats be somethign if Hussie had any ulterior motive.
At worst he sells up good music and cheap shirts.
Though he probably does get a cheap laugh or two at us panicing over things.

>>20703423
>That entire statement

>>20703388
THEORY: GREEN SUN IS THE GOD INSIDE THE MOUNTAIN ANDREW WILL SACRIFICE US TO.
God knows he couldn't sacrifice us without proper foreshadowing!

>>20703423
>implying cheap shirts

>>20703440
Wait, so Andrew is a Yozi cultist?

Suddenly I understand everything!

>>20703494
Well...

>FUCK.

It's one thing for Hussie to throw a bone to "shippers" once in a while, with all the bizarre romance shit with the Trolls.

Then he pours gasoline all over the whole thing by confirming the already perfectly obvious with the kids.

Admittedly, Karkat was a great way to do it. He's just so fucked in the head it's irresistible to watch.

Fucking roleplaying, I'm not good at that shit and it seems to be the only entertaining thing for the non-artistically inclined fans.

I bitter.

>>20703535
There's always cosplay, voice acting....baking? I don't know.
There is a way to insert homestuck respect into your life for everyone.

>>20703543
I'm not THAT much of a messed up fan.

>>20703526
Yet by "confirming" things, you know it's not gonna happen. In writing you can't just out and out say that so and so characters are going to pair up, there's no build up, no tension.

Hussie's gonna pull one out of left field and troll everyone. Just watch, by the end, John'll end up with Nepeta, Rose will be with Sollux, and Dave'll somehow hook up with Crumple Hat.

Are you still around writerfag? Here' more depressing fanart. You can look at this while you meditate on what a horrible person you are for writing these stories.

So they confirmed the existence of millions of alternative universes, huh?
I guess that in the end...
>shades.jpg
..It doesn't matter.

>>20703562
And you're a horrible person for visualising it.

Good god what is WRONG with you.

>>20703546
Yet roleplay is where you draw the line?
Psh.

>>20703562
Got it, love it. Very nice work. Thanks!

>>20703576
Don't act like you weren't imagining what the trolls' emaciated bodies looked like while you were reading.
I know we all were.

>>20703582
Don't fucking 'psh' me! I have my reasons!

Besides, I'm not good at RPing anyway. :I So fuck my life.

>>20703589
You're welcome!

>>20703388
>Here's a theory.
>Andrew Hussie is a psychopath
More like fact lol.

Technically, they wouldn't be all emaciated. seeing as it gets explained to the point of "WHEN YOUR SHITTY UNIVERSE WAS CREATED, IT WAS COMPLETELY INSTANTANEOUS FOR US, WE CAN VIEW ALL OF THE TIME IN IT" basically. So, the trolls have probably only be there for like, a day.

/sperg

In other news. Lookit what I made.

>>20703595
PSHHHHHHH

>>20703604

Probably true really. I mean the kids could dick around for YEARS and all the Trolls would need to do is fast forward a bit.

Okay, so I don't read fanfiction because it is bad, always. Why is everybody reading this writerfag's person's work? What the hell is this about? Why are you getting emotions out of a fanfiction about a webcomic that doesn't really elicit much emotion other than amusement and intrigue?

>>20703621

I personally don't read it. I just gloss over discussion on it and do to the bits of the thread I want to talk about. Not everything has to be a federal fucking issue if you don't like it.

>>20703621
It's ok. A lot of it is out of character.
All of the kids and trolls went through a lot of tough shit man, Hussie just never dwells on it. The scene were Sollux kills Aradia has been dramatized to death, because it was pretty fucked up.

>>20703625

Suck my penis and answer the question, this wasn't even a state issue you cockfuckdickshit.

>>20703593
>emaciated
I probably would have used that word if I had remembered it, or done any research into the topic before I started writing. Some quick wikipedia clicks just now led me to the Minnesota Starvation Experiment. The results of the experiement are very interesting to read:

>Among the many conclusions from the study was the confirmation that prolonged semi-starvation produces significant increases in depression, hysteria and hypochondriasis as measured using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI), a standardized test administered during the experimental period. Indeed, most of the subjects experienced periods of severe emotional distress and depression. There were extreme reactions to the psychological effects during the experiment including self-mutilation (one subject amputated three fingers of his hand with an axe, though the subject was unsure if he had done so intentionally or accidentally).[1] Participants exhibited a preoccupation with food, both during the starvation period and the rehabilitation phase. Sexual interest was drastically reduced and the volunteers showed signs of social withdrawal and isolation. The participants reported a decline in concentration, comprehension and judgment capabilities, although the standardized tests administered showed no actual signs of diminished capacity. There were marked declines in physiological processes indicative of decreases in each subject’s basal metabolic rate (the energy required by the body in a state of rest) and reflected in reduced body temperature, respiration and heart rate. Some of the subjects exhibited edema (swelling) in the extremities, presumably due to the massive quantities of water the participants consumed attempting to fill their stomachs during the starvation period.

Jade's prototype creates doc scratch

Enjoy

>>20703633
Because not all fanfiction is bad. Granted, the vast majority of it is, but some is actually quality writing. Especially considering that professional writers sometimes write fanfiction of franchises other than their own for fun - for instance, Neil Gaiman writes Sherlock Homes fanfiction. Writerfag is not a professional writer, but nevertheless, her stuff isn't exactly bad. Though she takes massive liberties with the characterisations of the characters, she can actually put together decent stories every now and then.

>>20703621
I think a lot of people read my stuff for several reasons:
- I make a lot of it, so there's always people seeing something new and going "hey, is there more?".
- I started writing stuff during the hiatus after [S]: Make her pay, and I think a lot of people used my stuff to fuel their homestuck addition while Hussie was taking the break.
- I like to do a lot of shipping stuff, so tht's bound to draw a crowd.
- When I'm not doing love-dovey crap in the main stories I like to take requests and fuck around with other topics, which lets me reach a broader audience. I have talked to people who said they loved my stuff, but didn't read _____ for a personal reason.

Now, I'm not saying I'm a fantastic writer or anything. A lot of the stuff I do is spur of the moment, while the rest has done degree of planning to it. I make mistakes and I'm well aware of the fact that sometimes the characters are... well, out of character, intentional or not. Veil Death was a chance to not give a fuck about keeping the characters like they are in the actual comic, due to them being trapped in the lab for almost a year when the story starts. If I had wanted to make Veil Death a long story like cg gc or Veil Life, I probably would have described the changes in the troll's personalities more completely as they lived in isolation for so long.

I'm completely ok with people not liking what I do. Some people don't like fanfics. Personally I could not give a damn about all this voice-acting stuff, but hey, if they're having fun doing it, they should go right ahead.

>>20703674
>Neil Gaiman writes Sherlock Homes fanfiction

>>20703680
Holy mother of tl;dr.

>>20703621
>I don't read fanfiction because it is bad, always
>Why is everybody reading this writerfag's person's work?
>Why are you getting emotions out of a fanfiction about a webcomic that doesn't really elicit much emotion other than amusement and intrigue?
opinions.

>>20703684
He talks about it on his blog. It's pretty good, too.

>>20703692
one of them actually made it into one of his short story collection. It was a sort of sherlock homes meets the elder gods type thing

Would Sherlock Holmes be public domain?

>>20703707
I remember someone getting in trouble when they thought it was, but it wasn't. Can't remember what it as, though.

>>20703707
I'm 99.9% sure the answer is yes, at least for Arthur Conan Doyle's stuff. From what I remember the public domain watermark is sitting somewhere in the middle of Lovecraft right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes#Adaptations_and_derived_works

>The enduring popularity of Sherlock Holmes has led to hundreds of works based on the character – both adaptations into other media and original stories. After Arthur Conan Doyle's death in 1930, his works' copyright expired in the United Kingdom in 1980[43] and they are public domain in most of the world (modern expiry term being 70 years). All works published in the United States prior to 1923 are in the public domain; this includes all Sherlock Holmes stories with the exception of The Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes. For works published after 1923 but before 1963, if the copyright was registered, its term lasts for 95 years[44]. The Conan Doyle heirs registered the copyright in 1981[45]. Since Case-Book was published in 1927, its copyright will expire at the end of 2022.

/co/ - Sherlock Holmes fanfiction

>>20703717
Looks like the very latest Doyle works (the stories published after 1923 - most of the Casebook-era stories) are actually not PD. That may have been what happened.

>>20703648
Who is jade?

>>20703753
Jade Harley. Human kid #4. This one.

>>20703757
Nope doesn't ring a bell, there are only 3 kids.

I think I missed something along the story...

Why did John write all over his posters and things again>

>>20703648
so... Jade is lored Lord English's?

im 0k with that

>>20703768
issues
stemming from the fact that his dad was just an ordinary buisness man I guess?

>>20703768
Him fucking around in his sleep.

Why did Rose write wizard fiction if she hated wizards?

Hey /co/, someone from /v/ here.

Can you explain me why you are going apeshit over this?I always thought you guys had pretty good taste.

This is just stupid and feels that is trying too hard.
Why do you like this?

>>20703783
She didn't hate wizards, she hated the fact that her mom bought all kinds of gaudy wizard paraphenalia as a passive-aggressive taunt.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003757

>>20703794
1) Not everyone here likes it.
2) A lot of us like it for different reasons.

That said, another guy ( >>20702105 ) asked a similar question at the top of the thread; the responses may serve as some kind of answer for you.
>>20702179
>>20702186
>>20702226

>>20703783
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002129

>Hanging just next to your door in the hallway is a painting of an EXQUISITE WIZARD. Your mother collects these awful things IRONICALLY. She must know how much you detest them, and there is no doubt in your mind she stores these dreadful things in the house to bother you.

When Dave asks about the Wizard slash, Rose says that she doesn't actually mind wizards themselves, but the way that her mother always had the wizards around the house seemed to be a form of ironic mockery on her part.

Hmm...

>>20703794
It always amuses me when someone asks something that's already been explained, in the very thread they are asking in. It's almost as if trolls don't read the threads they're trolling!

>>20703794

>>20703794
sloppy make outs

thats really all there is to say on the matter

>>20703794
>someone from /v/
Point invalidated.

>>20703794
cause video games don't have good music anymore
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/black

>>20703806
>>20703811
>>20703816
No, no , don't get me wrong.

I READ it already, It's just that....it's bad.

>>20703794
It's the same 30-40 faggots talking about it no-stop.

>>20703834
K see
>>20703822

>>20703834
did you get past act 1?

>>20703834
How far did you read? Because it's a general rule here that if you find that you don't like it by the middle of Act 2, it's probably not for you.

John's meteor struck and annihilated everything EXCEPT his home.

Rose's meteor set fire to everything.

BRO sliced dave's meteor in two, saving dave's home and causing some destruction around the area.

Jade's meteor creates a fuckhuge crater.

Do meteors get nastier the more players there are?

>>20703834
The thing is, it's good.
The author obviously cares about what he making. With the art and the story and the characters and the music its a whole production. You just need to invest yourself in it, quit acting so jaded to the concept of an webcomic author enjoying himself and putting out a quality product at the same time.

>>20703840
30-40 might be overestimating it for a single thread, but i guess if you take the 24 hour thread cycles into account it might be that many or even a bit more, it cant be the same handful of people yammering nonstop 24/7, they have to at least go to bed eventually

>>20703858
Meteors get progressively worse as the game continues and more players enter, though I doubt that the absolute largest meteor in any session would be much larger than Jade's.

>>20703868
Yeah it's pretty hard to get a meteor nastier than one that removes you from the comic altogether.

>>20703842
>>20703844
Finished Act 2.

I understand the concept and story but it seems that the author got convoluted in his own thing.
So far I don't like it, does it get any better?

>>20703865
every time I put a song up on /co/ it gets about 150-200 hits over the course of a thread, if that's any indication.
heck that "every mspa thread on co" thing Zig put up is sitting somewhere around 500, and I can't imagine too many people outside of /co/ homestuck threads would be interested in that.

>>20703884
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004478

>>20703884
embrace the stupid convolution and confusion and act like it is the funniest shit ever and that people who don't get it and love it are dumb

its what all the cool kits are doing

>>20703884
I don't think Homestuck is for you. Part of what makes MS Paint Adventures (not just Homestuck) good, is how it takes simple concepts, and expands them to absurd limits. It only gets more complicated from here.

Though the videogame references do get toned down to a minimum around act 3.

>>20703884
the convolution has a kind of annoying "Lost" quality to it in the start, but if you stick with it you'll soon be getting plenty of answers to questions. Hussie does a fantastic job of tying ridiculous, unrelated premises into a coherent story, have you read Problem sleuth?
The thing is, you really have to watch the flashes multiple times and soak in every detail. Especially the ones that last longer than a minute.

>>20703794
Homestuck aka' Homosuck is the cancer of /co/.
Equivalent of /a/'s K-ON and /v/'s Minecraft/TF2 trading threads.

>>20703884
With the plot, you basically have to remember that it's Lost in webcomic form. If you don't like Weird Time Shit, Weird Plot Shit and Weird Puzzle Shit, the man's comics just aren't for you. Shit only gets more complicated as it goes.

However, he still knows exactly what he's doing. This becomes evident in Act 5 Part 2, when a lot of the Weird Time Shit starts really falling into place. He also types up recaps at the end of Act 3 and Act 4, just to make sure that everyone stays on the same page. Like this one:

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003574

Man look at all the derps at the start of the thread who didn't get the Earthbound reference.

"Its called Homestuck cause at first you think the first kid is stuck in his home" BLUH BLUH

>>20703795
>she hated the fact that her mom bought all kinds of gaudy wizard paraphernalia as a passive-aggressive taunt

>>20703810
>the wizards around the house seemed to be a form of ironic mockery on [Mom's] part.

I've always assumed that everything Mom did to Rose was sincere, but over-done. Rose assuming her mom was being a passive-aggressive bitch was just her psycho-analyzing shit too much. Like, ya know, John thinking his Dad was a goof while he was actually a boring businessman or Dave thinking his brother was the king of all things ironic when he's really just a fetishistic weirdo.

I know this has been discussed a million times, I just like blabbing about the Guardians.

Because they're awesome.

>Lost in webcomic form

HAHAH

and then fucking homesuck fans were convinced it is crap

Anyone who makes that comparison, true or not, is absolutely riding the short bus to school

>>20703939
It's not really like Lost. I mean it actually answers questions once in a while.

>>20703939
>homesuck

Jesus Christ, if you're gonna insult the comic, at least do it right. It's HOMOSUCK.

Pride yourself in your trolling man, either go all the way, or don't.

>>20703928
>really just a fetishistic weirdo

you dont say

>>20703928
A godamn pillow under a note isn't "overdoing", it's pure irony.

Maybe at first it was sincere, but not anymore.

>>20703954
I guess I'm okay with it being sincerity-turned-assholishness. I just like the idea of a mother trying harder and harder to connect with her emotionally distant daughter only to push her away.

>>20703979
ill connect with her emotionally distant daughter

with my genitals

>>20703954
She's just a loopy drunk scientist who found a little girl in a meteor and tried to raise her right. You see a note hitting the ground you get a pillow for that shit

Here's the tl;dr version for you, /v/ guy.

Some people like convoluted, complex stories with multiple simultaneous plot threads which take a while to come together into a coherent story. Other people don't. Some people like first-person shooters. Other people don't. Some people like Nick Cage. Other people don't.

There's nothing wrong with disliking Homestuck. But there's nothing wrong with liking it, either. Everyone likes different things for different reasons.

>>20704004
but why do you like it enough to have 24 hour thread cycles, new threads arising when one falls beyond the first page

are you obsessed or something

>>20704019
Welcome to the magical world of 'fanbases'. Take a seat, you're in for a horrifying and puzzling ride.

>>20704019
The answer is yes, they're obsessed.

>>20704019
I'm more bothered by that "perpetual drawthread" thing...

at least more than one person starts these threads...

>>20704019
It's fun to talk about, and there's obviously a demand for it. Without these threads, you'd have a shit-ton of Homestuck pouring out across the boards. These topics keep things all in one place. There's also an EXTREMELY active fan-community based around Homestuck, one so dedicated that it boggles my mind. Many threads do boil down to shipping though.

im so sad that vriska has a whole body back now

come back lovely amputee ;_;

>>20704019
MSPA has a colossal fan base in terms of online presence, with people in almost every single timezone on the planet reading the strip and coming to /co/ to discuss it - hence the 24-hour continuous presence. And since the plot is so complicated and there are so many characters worth paying attention to, there's always something for us to talk about.

Plus there's the fact that Hussie's update schedule is both highly frequent and extremely erratic, so it helps to have just one Homestuck thread on /co/ so that all the shit is contained there instead of multiple threads popping up every time he posts a new page.

>>20704050
The frequent updates is another thing. Could you imagine the kind of activity that'd be surrounding, say, Homestar Runner if it updated every single day?

It'd be goddamn chaos.

>>20704061
homestar runner still exists?

>>20704066
I'm pretty sure it does. Not sure when it last updated, though. Probably a while ago now.

What do you get when you cross something that updates all the time with something that never updates at all?

Homestuck Runner