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    1.59 MB Madoka Thread Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:50 No.46650741  
    Continued from >>46648819

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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:52 No.46650789
    Well Kyouko wasn't herself since epi 6 when Sayaka's moralfaggotry tainted her.
    Good fucking riddance.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:52 No.46650809
    Someone posted the sankaku complex link yet again. It's like you guys have never heard of the site before and think it's a news site. They pull this bullshit all the time, just ignore it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:52 No.46650811
    I wanna eat some stolen apples now.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:53 No.46650830
    Kyouko was beautiful in her last moments. I wish we all could have seen more of her with her hair down.

    >But this is the last time we'll see her.

    >Until Oriko, at least.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:53 No.46650841
    When Puella Magi realise the full extent of adult desires they become witches.

    How do you like them apples.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:53 No.46650846
    It's only the newer people. Haven't you seen all the hateful and raging responses every time someone posts it?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:53 No.46650854
    Have they even explained why its only young teenage girls instead oh.....experienced military personel or someone thats combat capable right off the bat?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:54 No.46650860
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:54 No.46650870
    It's not just that. She was fucking PISSED at Kyubey when she found out the truth.

    Sayaka may have wore her heart on her sleeve, but Kyouko was very upset to find out the truth about it all too. The only hope she had left was that they could somehow bring back a magical girl who had turned into a witch; when she realized it was impossible, there was only one thing left for her to do.

    captcha: almagia hatesoup
    how the fuck does the captcha know?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:54 No.46650877
    homura confesses her love to madoka right before facing walpurgisnacht

    ep 1 sequence repeats itself

    homura shatters her own soul gem to defeat the witch

    madoka cradles homura's lifeless body and weeps while final credits play
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/03/11(Thu)23:54 No.46650884
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    Meduka Meguca EP 4 where?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650894
    I've repeatedly heard that sankaku has shit tier facts, but is it supposed to be like the Onion or more like Fox News?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650901
    Which is exactly why I'm telling them just to ignore the site while the activity has their attention
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650905
    >>The gear witch will USE Sayaka body to become more powerfull, that's why her design has a diagonal cut and a blues esque color

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650908
    The latter.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650912
    First thing I saw was Madoka will be cancelled, then I saw what site it was on.
    Thats why I almost shit myself
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650919
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    If I wished for it, would QB let me fuck him/her/it?
    >> SHiN the SiNNER !!3n8yyKtTvbU 03/03/11(Thu)23:55 No.46650920
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    Kyoko is still alive.

    "If the death of the character is not explicitly shown, that character is alive."

    We've seen this happen a thousand times. Remember Strike vs Aegis? Kira lives.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650925
    Kyubey said it because teenage girls experience a wide spectrum of feelings, which give more energy.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650933
    The kyouko sayaka relationship was forced as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650939
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    Kamijou playing violin in Sayaka's witch world? That was fucking brilliant.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650944
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    >Final Boss is voiced by Kamiya Hiroshi
    >Final Battle Theme is played by Kenji Ootsuki
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650947
    More like fox news. As far as I can tell it's run by a very biased individual writing extremely emotionally charged articles, often with no facts to back them up at all. He could honestly be completely making up some of those stories.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650953
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    The Meguca guy probably dropped it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650958
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    We're going to get a really graphic sex scene between Homura and Madoka

    99% confirmed.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:57 No.46650967
    Higher emotion output, or some jazz like that. More emotion means more energy for Incubator to harvest. Which is why he chooses little girls.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:57 No.46650973
    Teenage girls are emotional, hormonal powerhouses.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:57 No.46650982
    It's fine if she's dead, this thing will obviously end in a huge reset anyway. Even Mami will be back.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:57 No.46650983
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    >Madoka Thread
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651001
    Same with Sayakawitch, then.
    But I dare say few things survive an explosion like that.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651002
    >The only hope she had left was that they could somehow bring back a magical girl who had turned into a witch; when she realized it was impossible, there was only one thing left for her to do.
    This. I can't believe that people don't understand this.
    It wasn't just about Sayaka. It was also about HERSELF.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651005
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    >March 4th, 2011

    The day SCIENCE killed the love for Madoka.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651009
    I'm going to assume QB is lying about basically everything. We haven't gone lovecraftian yet, we're still in faust territory and here's why:

    Everything in series has been about isolating Madoka in such a way that she's forced into a contract despite having a well-adjusted life. Faust made a deal with Mephistopheles when he was on the verge of suicide, so clearly the solution is to make Madoka suicidal and whatever lies QB needs to tell to make that happen are fair game. "Not understanding the concept of deception" was iffy before, but this episode confirmed he can flat out lie (especially lying about being unable to lie).

    Anyway the way this ends is Madoka becoming godlike, using (all of) her to restore her world and her friends and (probably) destroying her own soul gem so she doesn't become a witch in the process. Alternately, QB ferries her off to hell once she's done.

    Either that or the last scene is her waking up as Bill Murray, which would be an even worse ending.
    >> Jake the Strawberry !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651014
    >scene in which the two main characters destroy each other in the middle of a 50 episode season and before the "mid-season upgrade"
    >scene in which two side characters destroy each other at the tail-end of a 13 episode season as we're winding up to the final arc
    No, SHiN.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651026
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    it all returns to nothing
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:59 No.46651038
    >Hmm I like what's going on in this -
    >Fang sticking out of both people's mouths while they kiss
    Seriously? That's fucking messed up and disgusting. Just how terrible is that hobo's teeth anyway?
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/03/11(Thu)23:59 No.46651045
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    Her Soul Gem fucking SHATTERED in front of our eyes.

    I only wish they did that for Mami as well...
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:59 No.46651046
    >Sankaku Complex
    >like the Onion
    Hahahahaha, oh my god.
    If only.
    If only.

    But no, this is real sensationalist journalism the likes of which we don't even see in the real media anymore.
    Just goes to show how mind-shatteringly stupid most anime fans actually are, to eat up bullshit like Sankaku.
    >> SHiN the SiNNER !!3n8yyKtTvbU 03/03/11(Thu)23:59 No.46651054
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    And why in Japan? USA has more females who're hormonal power houses.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:00 No.46651064
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    i want this fucking show and the shitstorms surrounding it to be over, fuckdamn
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:00 No.46651071
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    It's more like a weeaboo retard writing a tabloid. On /a/ the articles are used exclusively to troll.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:00 No.46651074
    Really great
    What is that thing? witches are made out nightmares,dreams or both?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:00 No.46651091
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    So the beginning is pretty much confirmed to repeat itself.

    Madoka wishes to go back in time and save Homura-Chan?
    >> Jake the Sauvignon Blanc !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:01 No.46651108
    Because the U.S. doesn't produce magical girl anime.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:01 No.46651110
    ... Seriously, now? Don't be fucking retarded, please.
    Is that too much to ask from you, SHiN?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651137
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    I'm not sure if he's in active lying yet, but he's definitely moved from omitting certain details to creative truth distortion.

    On a related note, WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CHAIRS!?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651141
    If you were Sayaka, you'd make your familiars look like Kyousuke too.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651144
    Reposts, reposts everywhere.

    See you guys in a couple days.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651145
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    You're assuming that there are only Cubees in nippon, which is a silly thing to assume when we know there's more than one.


    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651150
    What in the world makes you think witches and magical girls are confined to japan? This is an alien race using the human race to produce free batteries. Kyubei is all over the world.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651163
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    I'll stop Kyubey!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:02 No.46651164
    I'd say population density, if anything. A lot harder to cause despair when you're out in a rural town.
    Or maybe they can only speak japanese. It's anime after all.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:03 No.46651168
    Because Bokurano.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:03 No.46651178
    > Aliens
    > Written by Kubo

    Last episode Aizen comes on screen, and it turns out we have been watching the latest Bleach Arc.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:03 No.46651185
    >QB: hey, I can give you a wish if you make a contract with me!
    >American female: only JESUS can do that
    >> SHiN the SiNNER !!3n8yyKtTvbU 03/04/11(Fri)00:03 No.46651187
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    Out of curiosity. It felt like I'm watching the X/1999 movie. End of the world and it can only be done in Japan. It feels like Japan is the center of all evil. Homu!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:03 No.46651197
    I enjoyed this episode very much. I don't know why everyone doesn't like the alien thing. An emotionless alien race harvesting the angst of preteen girls to use for energy? Sounds fucking sweet to me.

    But I don't really get why Kyoko suicided. Did she really like Sayaka that much?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:04 No.46651218
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    They will be remembered.;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:04 No.46651232
    We could probably analyze Sayaka's witch form and the world she dwells in more carefully. After all, she's the only character that we've seen to have human, mahou shoujo and witch forms.

    Whatever is found could be used to interpret whether other witches have some elements that could be used to derive their possible purpose for the show. Especially the very first witch world we saw as opening scene to the anime.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:05 No.46651253
    In before Kyubey shows Madoka his memories of his homeworld telepathically. On the edge of the universe, a dark and ruined world, where a civilization of ten billion Kyubeys lie in eternal hibernation to conserve energy.

    "Do you understand, Madoka? This is the destiny this entire universe faces. I'm the last of my kind left. I wish I didn't have to place this burden on you, but..."

    And Kyubey, with his ever-constant expression, begins to cry.
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    ...your view of the typical American female is highly warped.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:05 No.46651261
    One chair for every dead magical girl.
    Like Bokurano, I guess.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:05 No.46651272
    Exactly. He lied about not being able to lie. He's just trying to make them think he can't lie so they will be drive to DIS PEAR.

    Besides, how the hell else do you explain Walpurgis Night? If Witches exist solely for the energy they release when they transform from Magical Girls, what the hell is a super-powerful Witch coming for? Where did it come from?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:05 No.46651273

    There's a good reason for that...
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:06 No.46651298
    What is this Shitkaku post everyone has their panties in a bunch over?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:06 No.46651299
    I had nutt subs, I thought qb's explanation was alright. Maybe people are more butthurt from gg's translation. Also, another anon made a good point. After kyouko finding out magical girl's end fate, instead of becoming a witch from possible despair of not being able to save sayaka or other reasons, she'll end it both for them there.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:07 No.46651313
    This show has the coolest fucking soundtrack. Just saiyan.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:07 No.46651324
    If QB cried I'd lose it then shit shut got real to the EXTREME!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:07 No.46651333
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    >scene in which two side characters

    >Implying Sayaka wasn't the main charcter
    >Implying Madoka hasn't been a supporting character ep 2
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:07 No.46651340
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:07 No.46651342
    So in the scene where Kyubey's explaining to Madoka why he makes magical girls, he mentions in passing that girls going through puberty make great candidates for the program because of how their emotions change. Doesn't that mean that technically he can make magical boys too? Boys are plenty emotional for this shit, just not the same way as Madoka's bawfest. I wouldn't mind seeing some badass warlocks too.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:08 No.46651369
    Yuki Kajiura's great, yeah.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:08 No.46651374
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    So guys I know you're all butthurt about thermodynamics, but has anyone mentioned that it could actually *be* kamijo that we saw in the maze?

    I mean what if sayaka kissed him and brought him into her maze. Is he dead now too? I doubt green-hair will be happy about that.
    >> SHiN the SiNNER !!3n8yyKtTvbU 03/04/11(Fri)00:09 No.46651379
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    I don't know if Homura moves this way but to me, she's just flirting to Madoka. I mean, look at the way she was turning around. It's as if she's saying "Madoka, look at my ass."
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:09 No.46651380
    Teenage boys don't have periods.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:09 No.46651388
    I could've mentioned Twilight or Justin Bieber, but I chose the lesser of those evils...
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:09 No.46651394
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    Just finished it, made me really depressed, but also really excited to see how Homura handles Walpurgis (aka Witch Queen, aka Gear Witch) alone.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:09 No.46651405

    I also loved the episode, for opposite reasons. I'm completely fine with QB as an otherworldly being, were you expecting he was native to Earth? As for Kyouko's suicide, just look at the road she had ahead of her. Did she want to continue living as a zombie if it meant she'd eventually become a witch? I think not. Very depressing this episode was.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:09 No.46651412
    Boys would enjoy it too much.
    Boys would also use up way too much magic and end up blowing up their Soul Gems way too fast.

    We're just too headstrong compared to those girls, yet more emotionally stable.
    >> Sage01 03/04/11(Fri)00:10 No.46651426
    It's not
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    Funny 'cos it's true.
    >> Jake the Derby !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:11 No.46651451
    >the main character


    So does that mean that Madoka is the most emo and hormonal of them all?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:11 No.46651453
    I'm still confident that Hitomi wasn't actually in love with Kyousuke.
    The reason that she wanted to talk to Sayaka so badly was that she's been trying to hook them up.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:11 No.46651456
    I think it was more that she didn't want to become a witch later on. Her suicide was for more selfish reasons than any act of friendship.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:12 No.46651474
    If you had that body you too would show it to your lover at every chance.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:12 No.46651485
    I'm pretty sure Americans have made mahou shoujo before. Supposedly it wasn't too bad either by American cartoon standards, not that it's saying much though.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:12 No.46651486
    I honestly am not buying the whole "Kyouko saw no more reason to live after she wasn't able to turn Sayaka back to human". Whilst the "zombie" revelation did hit her at first, she did get over it. We saw her even trying to convince Sayaka to get used to it.

    As for the deal about ending up as a witch. Now that she has this bit of information, chances for her to end up as a witch are lower, since she knows some things she could avoid to become one.

    I really don't know how she got so infatuated with Sayaka. I can see how she was able to empathise with her, since both of them made selfless wishes, and Kyouko really wanted to prevent Sayaka from falling into depression by trying to be to selfless. However, Kyouko's behaviour afterwards was as if she had been close friend's with Sayaka. Had they had some development in which both developed some degree of friendship, I'd understand, but no such thing ever happened. Kyouko and Sayaka were mere acquaintances.

    How can I put this? The events that took place, and along with Kyouko's behaviour can be explained to a degree, but things happened far to fast for it to be believable in my opinion.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:12 No.46651488
    She's innocent and naive to a ridiculous point. And that gives her the most potential for pure despair.
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    >I doubt green-hair will be happy about that.

    Green Mugi can go suck a million dicks.
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    No, we were expecting him to be this guy.
    >> Jake the Anemone !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:13 No.46651546
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    Reposting. (Because attentionwhoring.)

    Now with bonus 4chan sounds!

    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:13 No.46651550
    Probably isn't Kamijo himself, but more like Sayaka's memory of him or something similar.
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    He wouldn't have been standing with his back to Sayaka the entire time if it were actually him.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:14 No.46651571
    but W.I.T.C.H. is Italian
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:14 No.46651574
    Nope. Made in Italia.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:14 No.46651585
    She's not flirting with Madoka. She's flirting with the world.
    That's how people like us move, kid. That's how people like us move.
    We style all over the place without even realizing it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:14 No.46651593
    I feel the same way. It's like the only explanation would be that they were in love, or at least Kyoko was in love with Sayaka.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:15 No.46651598

    Teenage Girl:
    >Make a contract with me to protect the world! Plus, you get a wish!
    Uh, OK.
    >Wish fucks up/discover soul gem is your actual soul/get your period

    Teenage Boy:
    >Come be a force fighting witches, you'll get one wish
    Wait, so I can blow shit up AND I get a wish? AWESOME
    >wish will probably be something like "I'd like to have sex/cool physical object/more power"
    >Reveals soul gem is your soul:
    So I can't even get fucked up when I fight? AWESOME

    Boys wouldn't turn into warlocks, we'd be too happy blowing shit up in LSD-land to even care.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:15 No.46651604
    Mami did it first

    mami come back ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:15 No.46651609
    Kyouko is actually a sweet, sensitive girl who had to force herself to be selfish, and interacting with Sayaka caused her to start to revert to the way she was before, at least in part.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:15 No.46651617
    Really? I remember seeing the cartoon on stuff like Disney and it was in English.
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    It's how she sees him internally; always out of reach, never looking at her, no matter what she does.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:16 No.46651635

    So you wanted copypasta Faust?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:16 No.46651641
    Maybe if you live in like...the deep south or something.

    Just dump Kyubey in LA and see him hit up all the desperate vapid bitches without a second thought.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:16 No.46651642
    Perhaps that is a representation of Sayaka feeling that Kamijou turned his back on her.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:16 No.46651644
    The four chairs closest to the side of the bed are red, purple, blue, and yellow. They represent Kyouko, Sayaka, Mami, and Homura -- all facing Madoka, who sits under the spotlight. The other chairs probably represent other people, as well.

    It's a symbol of how everyone's fates rest on Madoka, and how she feels them staring at and judging her, waiting for her to DO something.
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    To sum up:

    QB being alien:
    Most people are fine with this

    Entropy ass-pull explanation:
    Most people are not fine with this.

    Had QB's explanation been "Your souls are way more tasty when I troll the shit out of you" people would have been fine with the alien thing.

    I'm still going with QB being either:

    1) Gen in disguise. Full troll ending.

    2) The Easter Bunny. Resurrecting Jesus by devouring the souls of teenage girls.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:16 No.46651648
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    >3 establishing eps
    >6 eps Sayaka arc
    >3 exposition/epilogue eps

    Don't be mad, bro. There are still three eps for the supporting characters to shine.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:17 No.46651662
    >Teenage Boy
    Raping witches.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:17 No.46651672
    >Boys wouldn't turn into warlocks, we'd be too happy blowing shit up in LSD-land to even care.
    I know you're right because even after seeing tragedy after tragedy unfold in the damn show, I'd STILL take the fucking contract for the opportunity to blow shit up.
    Why the fuck are we so stupid, goddamn?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:17 No.46651678
    >He thinks W.I.T.C.H. is American!

    I don't have a reaction image.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:17 No.46651679
    For those wondering why Kyubey doesn't use his wish granting powers to fix his own problems. Here's my spin.

    Kyubey doesn't grant your wish. All he does is remove your soul and put it in a soul gem, the wish does not come into fruition because kyubey grants it. It comes to be because the person who just gained magic wished for it. That's why a magical girl's powers are related to her wish. Because they originate from the same place, a person's soul.

    The only person that could've healed Kamijou's hand is Sayaka purely because she is the one who would wish for his hand to heal. Her primal wish was for something to be healed and now her magic does that naturally.

    Wishes could be considered the basis of a magical girl's magic.

    Kyubey only allows you to become a magical girl. And that's why he needs you to have a wish. Since that's the key to magical power.

    Kyubey has fuckall to do with your wish besides putting your soul into a soul gem.

    He's pretty much a con-artist. He's tricking you into believing he's giving you something he's not.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:17 No.46651686
    Elly would have been scarred for life...
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:18 No.46651700
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    Now you realize that by the time someone finds out Sayaka's body, It'll be rotten to the bones.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:18 No.46651704
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    Homu confirmed to be madoka's mother
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:18 No.46651706
    I don't think we wanted copypasta Faust, we just wanted copypasta Mephistopheles.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:18 No.46651716
    If it really is like that, then we can assume that Sayaka in her witch form was at least partially connected to her former self, which doesn't make the whole "let's save her" part that ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651728
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    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651729
    ... Are you serious, dude?
    You can't believe that something in English might not be made in America? On an ANIME board?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651730

    It was the theme for 8 freaking episodes and out of nowhere ALIEN INVADERS.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651732
    This is why kyubey doesn't make magical shotas. He even states as much in the show - teenage girls have the most angst and therefore the most magical power and therefore are the most effective to harvest

    Fuck, i wanna do unlimited musket works ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651734
    Teenage boys aren't really emotional, just horny as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651746
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    >wish will probably be something like "I'd like to have sex/cool physical object/more power"

    QB's not going to contract anyone that would wish frivolously like that, male or female. He's looking for desperation for the most part.


    They were tighter than friends; they were enemies. Enemies because they were too alike.
    >> Some French anon 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651749
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    I've reached the acceptance stage, how about you /a/ ?
    was posted today before the fucking ep, just edited it to cheer me up.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651753
    If QB were recruiting boys, he'd be looking for Shinji, not jocks.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651759
    Nobody find it strange that a species without emotion create a method to convert emotion into energy?
    I called bullshit on Urobochi writing.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:19 No.46651762
    I believe someone translated the weird glphs on the Kamijou posters at the entrance of witch Sayaka's lair and it pretty much says "LOOK AT ME!!" over and over again.
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/04/11(Fri)00:20 No.46651766
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    The posters in the hall before her lair all said LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME in runes.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:20 No.46651779
    "Incubator, in this world we OBEY the laws of thermodynamics!"

    Seriously though, the QB alien(s) remind me of the Strangers from "Dark City." They may be from another one of the multiverses/timelines to suck the energy from this one via Magical Girls...kind of like Asimov's "The Gods Themselves."

    This series has turned into the Magical Girl version of "To Serve Man." Aliens promise and deliver wonderful things and then use humans like cattle...all with out lying outright. If I were Madoka, I'd be screaming all over the place "IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!"
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:20 No.46651784

    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:20 No.46651787
    who's to say that wouldn't be a more effective power source than angst? i am sueing kyubey for not being an equal opportunity employer
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:20 No.46651793
    >just horny as fuck
    Yeah, I think they'd just be too annoying to manipulate
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:21 No.46651804
    Teenage boys are plenty emotional, they just don't express it the same way or as openly. I mean, look at what a bitchfest 4chan is.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:21 No.46651809
    >> Jake the Wildebeest !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:21 No.46651829
    You can't power a universe on trolling and porn.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:22 No.46651833
    I don't see anything wrong with that.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:22 No.46651834
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    Behold this magnificent masterpiece.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:22 No.46651839
    I'll need a couple days, I think.
    I can't even re-watch the episode without flying into a despair-powered rage upon seeing Kyouko's lovely face.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:22 No.46651846
    This isn't Star Driver.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:22 No.46651850
    Not at all. You can study what you don't personnaly have, don't you?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:22 No.46651862
    That, or the wish uses residual power from the process of making a Soul Gem out of a soul. Kyubey then gives that energy a purpose: to fulfill the wish.
    It's an investment. When the wish goes to shit and the MG despairs and becomes a witch, that energy 'wasted' to temporarily make the girl happy is paid many times over.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651871
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    that is the wildest speculah ever.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651879
    Boys bitch because they're powerless but don't want to be. That's the only reason, when you boil it down.
    We wouldn't be bitching if we could summon machine guns out of thin air. We just wouldn't.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651881
    Lets just have a MS show with actual lesbians instead of subtext!

    >Sailor Moon, Utena, KnM, Mai Hime
    well fuck.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651884

    This is part of the reason everyone is butthurt.

    Either Gen or QB is trolling here.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651885
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    I don't think it will be "too" hard
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651888
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    God damn, i just watched today's episode.

    You dirty son of a bitch.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651890
    >> /a/ !!jhgVZ1bcEDg 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651893
    >show doing complete asspulls throughout it
    >first moment of first episode confirmed to be last arc/last episode material
    >unless shaft pulls some absurd asspull we have a pretty good idea of how it will/could end

    >watching madoka for anything other than the batshit insane animation during witch fights

    I had so much hope for this show too, Shaft is my favorite studio.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:23 No.46651894
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    Have you never been in a FOREVER ALONE thread? Never watched a friend in his first relationship? Boys are feeling tons of shit when they're young. We're just biased to see them as "reason" rather than "feelings" because we're the ones having them, and feeeeelings aren't manly.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:24 No.46651899
    I'm not saying I'm having problems with that. My problem is it happened far too fast for me to take Kyouko's change of heart as believable.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:24 No.46651903
    Kate Beaton would be proud.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:24 No.46651906

    Even Shinji would feel better after blowing shit up

    Males are naturally geared to feel better after some form of physical release. It's in our action figures, it's in our heroes, it's in our nature. Even the most beta guy dreams of beating the shit out of the jock and taking the cheerleader, right? If you give any guy nigh-unlimited destructive power, PLUS the incentive that maintaining this power requires the constant destruction of evil "witches", I can guarantee that the vast, vast majority of teenage boys would be happy as fuck. Tie in the immortality mentality that makes young men such good soldiers to begin with, and 9 times out of 10 your average boy would die in battle long before he has enough emotional burdens to become a warlock and do the energy release that QB's looking for.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:24 No.46651912
    >You can't power a universe on trolling and porn.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:24 No.46651921
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    >> Sage01 03/04/11(Fri)00:25 No.46651924
    >>ass pull

    Nope, not an asspull at all. It's actually an interesting twist that is preferred over the old and tired Mephistopheles crap among other christian and germanic mythos.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:25 No.46651927

    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:25 No.46651937

    Teh interwebz are 95% this.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:25 No.46651939

    Enjoy understanding how your brain works a little better.
    Moral of the story: go blow something up.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:25 No.46651945
    >Now you realize that by the time someone finds out Sayaka's body, It'll be rotten to the bones.

    Bodies left within a witch world disappear, like Mami's. This is also in part why Homura complained about Kyoko escaping with Sayaka's body the first time; it would have been more convenient to leave it than it being found by the police.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:26 No.46651968
    >If you give any guy nigh-unlimited destructive power, PLUS the incentive that maintaining this power requires the constant destruction of evil "witches", I can guarantee that the vast, vast majority of teenage boys would be happy as fuck. Tie in the immortality mentality that makes young men such good soldiers to begin with, and 9 times out of 10 your average boy would die in battle long before he has enough emotional burdens to become a warlock and do the energy release that QB's looking for.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:26 No.46651977
    Teenage boys wouldn't act like those bitches do.
    Hell when I was 13yo I sold my soul to some other kid for a dollar. I even signed a contract.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:26 No.46651979
    >You can't power a universe on trolling and porn.
    >A universe of trolling and porn

    You are now imagining how terrifying it must be to enter the world of a femanon-turned-witch
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:26 No.46651980
    It doesn't make sense. It is as though the only way we had of getting power is through dark energy, when there are a lot of other ways.
    >> Jake the Shrimp !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:27 No.46652005
    ...which is irrelevant for Sayaka's body, as it's lying on Kyouko's bed, slowly rotting away.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:27 No.46652008
    Who's the artist? I kinda recognize that artstyle.

    Also, magnificent, you got a 10/10, whoever did it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:27 No.46652009

    And I've still got that contract, Johnny boy.
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/04/11(Fri)00:27 No.46652014
    A tear formed in the corner of my eye.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:27 No.46652015
    Lol, Madoka on Tumbler? Really?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:27 No.46652022
    >We're just biased to see them as "reason" rather than "feelings" because we're the ones having them, and feeeeelings aren't manly.
    I agree with all your post, and I think that's probably exactly why it's Mahou Shoujo without any consideration for Mahou Shounen; the series is made by males.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:28 No.46652025
    But the energy that defies all rules only comes from emotions which Kyubey's race didn't have in the first place.

    I think Kyubey said early on that the grander and larger the wish the more powerful the magical girl. Which makes me think that the wish is the basis of the power and emotions that sprout forth from your deepest desire is supplements it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:28 No.46652028
    It's more like they discovered electricity rather than dark matter.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:28 No.46652044
    Someone who's basing their style on Kate Beaton:
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:28 No.46652046

    It powers 4chan pretty well, I think it's time to expand.

    >QB comes to 4chan
    >QB grants /b/'s wish
    >Everyone dies
    >Everyone comes back to life
    >Everyone dies again
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:29 No.46652069
    My name is John.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:29 No.46652070
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    Isn't Kyouko's soulgem meant to be on her upper chest area? Not a hair ornament ?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:29 No.46652073
    I love how all the fags are fagging because of HURP DURP SCIANCE
    likly wont be brought up in the rest of the show either
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652092
    >Kyubey some 'alien' species hellbent on twisting reality to harvest 'energy' to keep powering the universe

    I'm not LOVING this explanation, but it works, however I think them being an alien is either a: a poor choice of wording or b: gg's shitty translating.

    >Sayaka/Kyouko being dead

    Condom-chan went out with a literal bang, more power to her, Sayaka went out like a bitch.

    >Walpurgisnacht is just the name of an insanely powerful witch

    I was expecting more, like a night where puella magi were more susceptible to the tainting of their souls and thus fucktons of witches come out that night, in addition to whatever 'force' was driving Kyubey to come and collect their soul gems.

    Honestly, I think THAT'S why people are bitching so much, they were expecting more 'biblical'/apocalyptic kind of content in the show and the whole 'alien' explanation is just a tad bit on the 'cop out' of a solution side.

    It just... Sorta airs on the side of being rushed storytelling. There's still three episodes for shit to be explained but honestly, I don't think I'm gonna get the philosophical/miraculous sort of exposition of an ending I was hoping for.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652096
    I really don't understand how not having emotions would prevent QB's race from harvesting them. Please explain.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652099
    Her hairpin was the soul gem of her younger sister.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652100
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652103
    >Boys are feeling tons of shit when they're young.

    It's not that boys don't feel tons of shit, it's that boys have an acceptable release: violence. It's OK for boys to beat the shit out of something, and they get the ensuing catharsis of strenuous physical labor and the destruction of something else.

    Girls don't have such an acceptable release. no release = greater pressure, = turning into a witch much faster.
    >> Jake the Lovebird !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652105
    >QB offers /b/ contracts
    Oh god, the servers can't fail fast enough.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:30 No.46652107
    Kyouko, she becomes a magical girl to help her struggling family after her father was kicked out of the Church. But. when her father finds out about her witchcraft, he freaks the fuck out; killing his entire family before killing himself. This is an extremely traumatic experience for anyone, and most people would not be able to handle it, yet Kyouko did. She didn't kill herself, nor did she let her despair turn her into a witch. She just came out of it with her morals a bit more warped (i.e. Let the familiars kill people so they become witches).

    But, in this episode, Kyouko is so attached to Sayaka, a girl she was fighting bitterly with less than a week ago, that even the witch attacks Kyouko, she refuses to fight back for the most part. It's sudden, but I'll buy it.

    Then we get a scene where Kyouko and Sayaka's "souls" are mixing...okay. Then, when Kyouko realizes she can't save Sayaka...she decides to blow herself up with Sayaka so she wouldn't have to die alone....WAT?!

    You guys want to tell me why the death of one's entire family only scars Kyouko, but Sayaka's "death" pushes her to noble suicide? The only reason I can see her doing that is if she was more injured than the animation let on, but even with that, Kyouko could easily slice Sayaka up when she wasn't even trying to fight her. She chopped off he hand like it was nothing, are you telling me that she was so weakened by Sayaka's last attack that she couldn't even fight anymore?

    Seriously, I'm trying to look at it from a reasonable angle (i.e. not using meta reasons like Urobachi wanting another BBAAAAWW fest from fans and confirm Kyouko's true love to shippers), but it's just not making sense.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:31 No.46652113
    >Even the most beta guy dreams of beating the shit out of the jock and taking the cheerleader, right?
    Yes and no -- "the most beta guy" definitely dreams of that, but that's because it's an incredibly beta fantasy.

    People who are above the "beta as fuck" level don't feel that impotent rage -- we don't want to beat the shit out of the jock and win the cheerleader because we don't have the pressing need to prove our masculinity.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:31 No.46652121
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    >Sayaka becomes witch
    >Kyouko revealed to be a bro
    >QB and Magical science
    >QB reveals plan to turn Madoka into strongest magi-->witch-->energy
    >QB reveals to be Data Entity (aka Yuki Nagato's boss)
    >Madoka finally understands how fucked up QB is (finally!)
    >pointless saving of Sayaka
    STOP: Notice a pattern? For some reason, these girls like to reveal their true selves and be consulted by Madoka before being killed off or something!
    PREDICTION: Homura reveals her feelings and identity to Madoka before dying (we can all see it coming a mile away)

    >Kyouko bro sacrifice/SayakaxKyouko now OTP
    >And then there was 1 (I don't count Madoka: she's the end-game/goal)

    >QB's: "Just as planned."

    This shit keeps getting weirder, but I can't help but like it more for it.
    Anyways, time for obvious predictions:

    >Homura dies (see above)
    >Madoka is forced to battle Final Boss and forces to transform. Probably ends up destroying the world or something.
    >Kyuubey is the final boss
    >Walmart = the moon
    >Kyuubey vs. Homura
    >Kyuubey vs. Madoka (MAKE IT HAPPEN SHAFT!)
    >Sailor Moon showdown (everyone dies but Madoka, and Madoka draws in their power to become a Magical Girl without the contract)

    >Madoka becomes new Walmart (I don't even count this as a theory or guess. It's so heavily foreshadowed, it's not even funny.)
    but I'll add
    >she takes out Kyuubey in the process.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:31 No.46652127
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    this is a masterpiece
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:32 No.46652139
    QB is worried that the Universe will run out of energy before he looses his virginity. He shows mankind that they can generate insane amounts of logic defying broken energy with their feelings. Antispirals nuke their fucking planet. Millennium later: Gurren Lagann starts.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:32 No.46652144
    >Teenage Boy:
    >Come be a force fighting witches, you'll get one wish
    >Wait, so I can blow shit up AND I get a wish? AWESOME
    More like they wouldn't know what to wish for, just like the girls. Either that or QB would find boys in despair at their situation like the other characters, whether it be family problems, bullying, isolation, depression, or anger. At first most boys would love to fight, though some wouldn't or they'd take on the role of a knight, or whatever other motivation they have. Eventually they'd tire of it and serious the fuck up.

    >wish will probably be something like "I'd like to have sex/cool physical object/more power"
    >Reveals soul gem is your soul:
    >So I can't even get fucked up when I fight? AWESOME
    If QB contracts with emotional fucked up boys, sure they might wish for things like that, or they might wish for ways to fix their problems.

    >Boys wouldn't turn into warlocks, we'd be too happy blowing shit up in LSD-land to even care.
    Even the toughest soldiers can get PTSD. Being in "LSD-land" would make it all the more horrible.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:32 No.46652147
    I am not exactly sure why things happened the way they did in that scene, but I suspect it might have something to do with a magical girl being unable to remove the gem from their body when they are in mahou modo.

    OR, I think it is possible that it was just symbolism, like with the teacup after Charlotte's fight. So the gem on her hairpin wasn't her soul gem, but was just a fancy way of pulling off the attack, like how Mami used her hat to summon muskets.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:32 No.46652157
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    Madoka is bad luck for all Puella Magi.

    First she has a touching moment with Mami while walking through a barrier to get to a witch, and Mami dies. Then she had a similar moment with Kyoko while walking through a barrier, and Kyoko dies too.

    Madoka is baaad luck.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:33 No.46652164
    Kyouko lives for herself. Now she finds out that her life is a tool for Kyubey.
    Destroying herself is one last act of freespirited rebellion, since Kyubey gets nothing if she never becomes a Witch.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:33 No.46652172
    >It's OK for boys to beat the shit out of something

    What authority system is this under? Small town Eastern Europe?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:33 No.46652177
    >walpurgis is the moon
    fuck, can't unsee.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:33 No.46652185

    Don't assume QB is saying anything truthful. This episode established he can lie, which means he's been lying all along, probably about everything, here's the evidence of this:

    1. He lead Kyoko to believe that bringing a witch back "might be" possible. This was a lie by omission, you could argue it wasn't intentional, however:

    2. He claimed to Madoka that his kind don't understand deception, even though what he told Kyoko was clearly deception through omission (at best). So this was just a lie.

    3. The last scene has him making it very clear that not only has he been lying, he's been lying with an agenda.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:33 No.46652188
    i've wanted to beat the shit out of those kinds of guys before, but mostly because they're assholes and they deserve it, not because i feel like i have anything to prove
    also, those cheerleaders are usually bitches and whores, so you don't want them anyway
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:34 No.46652197
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    >taking the cheerleader
    You make me want to throw up
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:34 No.46652199

    I don't know if you find that refreshing but it is still an ass pull being it has not been foreshadowed in the past 8 episodes whatsoever.

    It's like telling a story about the Divine Comedy and suddenly it is revealed that Satan was imprisoned in the 9th circle of hell because Heat Death would ensue.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:34 No.46652210
    they all found out they would become witchs
    kyoko thought up untill she found out that she was fighting for the sole perpose of staying alive but now she knew it was all for nothing
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:35 No.46652215
    >She chopped off he hand like it was nothing, are you telling me that she was so weakened by Sayaka's last attack that she couldn't even fight anymore?
    You do realize that, the more she fights, the more she weakens her magical power, right? So doing something AWESOME like chopping off Sayawitch's hand DOES make her weaker.

    She was willing to expend all but the last of her magical power trying to get Sayaka to turn back, but it failed. At that point she can either risk turning into a witch, dying, or she can sacrifice herself to stop a really powerful witch from hurting anybody else.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:35 No.46652230
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    What is Homura going to do now? The only option she to leave Madoka turn into a Magical Girl if she wants to save the city...or just escape with Madoka to another city with her time-stop powers.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:35 No.46652235

    I'm not sure whether it'd be more surprising for Kyouko to come back at this stage or not.

    Maybe as a heavily damaged body + darked soulgem that needs to be force fed some grief seeds by homerun
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:35 No.46652236
    >Girls don't have such an acceptable release. no release = greater pressure, = turning into a witch much faster.

    Uhhh... No. Girls have far it easier than men when it comes down to catharsis, because a woman being emotional is very well accepted, whereas an emotional man is a faggot (not that I disagree).

    Oh, and by the way, women also fight. Sometimes through force, like men, and mostly in by behaviour. I swear, the way women bully each other is far scarier than what men do. Not to mention that men tend to end their shit after a fight, women can keep it for years.
    >> Jake the Salvia !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:36 No.46652242
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    First of all, emotional trauma tends to build up. People tend to have "snapping points", especially in the context of recent and extreme trauma.

    Secondly, Kyouko is selfish. SHE didn't want to be condemned to the fate of becoming a witch and die alone. When she's speaking, she's putting words into Sayaka's mouth.

    But still, she likes Sayaka. "How much" depends on how tightly your yuri goggles are stuck on.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:36 No.46652244
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    If Mami was my dad things would be different around here.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:36 No.46652246
    She was just showing off. Wouldn't you?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:36 No.46652248
    One thing you're missing. Kyouko found out that she was most definitely going to become the one thing her father accused her before offing himself and the rest of the family.

    "You're a witch"

    When you find out that the most horrible brand that has ever been applied to you by the person you quite possibly cared for the most at the time is going to become true you might consider the one thing that will avoid that fate. And if you're going to die you may as well go out with a bang.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:36 No.46652253
    >Even the toughest soldiers can get PTSD. Being in "LSD-land" would make it all the more horrible.

    Soldiers get PTSD when they come back from a combat zone and cannot re-adjust to civilian life. A magical girl never does so. They keep fighting until they die or become a witch. Can't have post-traumatic stress disorder if the trauma never ends, right?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:36 No.46652261
    What is the appeal of this show? Is it more compelling than it looks? Why is everyone talking about it?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:37 No.46652277
    Huh, suddenly I'm getting Claymore vibes.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:37 No.46652283
    Posted this on another thread already, but isn't what QB explained to Madoka basically this:

    "The heat death of the universe is a suggested fate of the universe, its final thermodynamic state in which it has diminished to a state of no thermodynamic free energy to sustain motion or life. In the language of physics, it has reached maximum entropy."
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:37 No.46652301
    >chop off Sayaka's hand
    >Sayaka wish was to heal someone else's hand

    Oh, the irony.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:37 No.46652302
    >suddenly it is revealed that Satan was imprisoned in the 9th circle of hell because Heat Death would ensue
    But that would explain why, even though hell is supposed to be incredibly hot, Satan himself is actually entrapped in ice at the very center of Hell.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:38 No.46652309
    Also, she had a horribly low defense value.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:38 No.46652310

    Also her death served as a big fuck you to QB,

    Since he can't harvest her soul gem if she blew it up.

    To bad it played into his bigger plans...
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:38 No.46652314
    But you've dreamed of beating SOMETHING up before, haven't you? Even just wanton destruction?
    You have to have.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:38 No.46652315
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    >What is Homura going to do now? The only option she to leave Madoka turn into a Magical Girl if she wants to save the city

    All according to keikaku.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:38 No.46652329
    I'd accept your explanation had it ever been hinted to even some degree in the show. However, there was nothing like Kyouko killing herself out of spite for QB.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:38 No.46652333
    Watch it and find out, retard.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:39 No.46652334
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    She already got left behind all on her own once. In the heat of the moment, is it really so unbelievable that she'd want to go with someone she cared about?

    She doesn't have much reason to live. No family, no life aside from witch hunting, and she knows that she too must one day become a witch. And she'll have to face Madoka afterward. People have hit the escape hatch for less.
    >> Sage01 03/04/11(Fri)00:39 No.46652337
    Yes but apparently people failed physics in highschool or some shit
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:39 No.46652340
    ugh worst b-day ever
    My wish today on my cake was to let Madoka become a magic girl, but no, instead I got Shafted.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:39 No.46652349
    Wrong. They're expected to return to civilian life EVERY DAY, like nothing ever fucking happened the night before.
    And that's insane.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:39 No.46652350
    But don't you think boys that destroy things like that for their own selfish release feel guilt? Sure, a lot of them might not, at least for awhile, but the same thing happens with the magical girls.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:40 No.46652370
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    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:40 No.46652383
    Hey, does anyone have a link to where I can download the MAD homura video?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:41 No.46652387
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    Oh Hale No!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:41 No.46652388
    >hell is suppossed to be incredibly hot
    Not really. Hell's ecosystems aren't really thoroughly explored, but, in general, is cooler than Heaven.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:41 No.46652394
    Making stress out teenage girls into his own energy source!? He HAS to be a higher life form from another planet!

    Also, requesting from all drawfags Yuki Nagato petting QB
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:41 No.46652395

    >Chop hand

    WHAT? She could've slice'd and diced the witch with her multi section spear from afar. Mami got slammed into a wall by Gertrud but that doesn stop her from Tiro Finale'ing it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:41 No.46652397
    Did you also notice that Kyouko threw herself into death because she didn't want to turn into the very thing that her beloved father falsely condemned her to be?
    A witch.

    She didn't want to be a witch.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652410

    > What is the appeal of this show?

    It's fun to watch, has an interesting plot, and has a really great villian/neutral-yet-amoral asshole.

    > Is it more compelling than it looks?


    > Why is everyone talking about it?

    See first answer. Though this is kind of a silly question to ask, what with /a/ being an anime board and this being a currently airing anime. Of course we;re going to talk about it.
    >> Jake the Unicorn !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652413
    ...You have an astoundingly poor understanding of PTSD.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652419
    Sora no Woto started out looking like a fairly engrossing and multi-faceted dystopic adventure, and turned out to be, sans one episode, cute girls doing cute things.

    I just wanted to know if this is as basic as the first episode suggests, or if it takes a turn towards something unexpected.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652425
    So, to rephrase it properly, you watched madoka and...

    *puts on sunglasses*

    Got SHAFTed?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652426

    Girls can be openly emotional, but being emotional doesn't provide the physical catharsis that out-and-out violence does.

    I mean fighting in the pure, physical, hit-shit-until-it's-gone sense of the term. The reason men tend to end their shit after a fight as you say is because of the physical carthasis of the fight, as well as the fact that a solid conclusion is established -- either someone won or it was a draw, and that's readily apparent to everyone by who is standing at the end.

    Women don't fight in that sense. At least, it's frowned upon heavily. The more passive ways of lashing out that you describe isn't fighting, because it doesn't provide the same release. It's just a continuation of a negative emotion.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652436
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    "Madoka, come with me if you want to live!"
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652439
    Enjoy your instant delicious 720p/1080p downloads.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:42 No.46652447
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    Jesus man, what do you think all these multi-hundred post threads that are mostly text are filled with? Spam?

    Obviously there's more, go fucking watch it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:43 No.46652450
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    With this episode, i'm demanding fanart of Homura with The World.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:43 No.46652459
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    so im guessing homura is all cooldere because QB wants emotional energy and shes not giving him any.
    this might also protect her gem from dirtying so fast.

    also QB seems to be talking about the "big freeze" theory of the end of the universe
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:43 No.46652469
    someone has a poor understanding of something? on 4chan? who would have thought.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:43 No.46652477
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    The Legend of Homerun
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:43 No.46652483
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    Dem weapons.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:44 No.46652499
    And then get back into the fray. The trauma never ends.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:44 No.46652501
    Anybody got that pic of Kyouko they showed at the end of this episode?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:44 No.46652504
    For whatever reason, Kyouko's Soul Gem had already begun to accumulate corruption. You can see the black creeping in throughout the episode.
    Perhaps she's been at it even longer than Mami has.
    Whatever the case, she didn't have long to live, and so she chose the last option left to her.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:45 No.46652527
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    Madoka>>>>>>>the universe

    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:45 No.46652549

    ultimate sacrifice end
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:45 No.46652558

    troll detected
    soul gem = magical girls body
    her soul gem snapped
    she died
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:45 No.46652559
    Sora no Woto speculahfag here.
    You don't honestly think that we'd be flipping a shit over something all over again if it wasn't everything we had hoped for and more, do you, dipshit?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:46 No.46652561
    this anon >>46652283 is suggesting heat death. In name, sounds completely opposite of yours lol.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:46 No.46652568
    The first episode starts all cute and shit, and then OH BOY
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:46 No.46652569
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    How to make this series ten thousand times better:
    Ep 1
    >OP scene is Sayaka, Madoka & Green Mugi walking to school.
    >No transfer student.
    >Kyubey calls to Madoka & Sayaka for help.
    >Kyubey is being attacked by a witch; Madoka faints, Mami saves the day.
    Ep 2
    >Madoka thinks she dreamt whole things. Mami & QB explain situation to Sayaka.
    >Like normal but no Madoka
    Ep 3
    >Sayaka sees Grief Seed
    >Sends Kyubey to find Mami
    >Charlotte kills Mami
    >Kyouko arrives & kills Charlotte
    >Admits to letting Mami die so she could get grief seed
    Eps 4 - 12
    >Like original 5-9, but with three more eps for character development
    >More development for Green Mugi
    >More time for Kyouko and Sayaka to develop rivalry
    >Re: Sayaka losing her soul gem, just say Kyouko attacks her while she's in human form
    >More time to bond
    >More time for Sayaka's despair to kick in
    >Far more satisfactory yuri climax
    Ep 12 epilogue
    >Kyubey asking Madoka if she'd like to make a contract
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:46 No.46652573
    The reason there are no Mahou Shounen is because they die before they get a chance to build up emotion. They wish for a magical sword or a bazooka or some faggot shit like that, then they go skipping into a witch's maze doing all the retarded shit they've seen in movies and TV, then they get one-shotted like a bitch before they even know what the fuck.

    Every. Single. Time.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652589
    It's cute girls doing cute things. Basically K-ON without guitars and stuff. I definitely sense that you'll probably be much better off with a much more mature and serious show...check around, there should be an Eva thread going in here.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652599
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    /a/non delivers
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652602
    Well, she had the one seed, but was probably saving that for sayaka at first.
    Not really. It's heat death, as in the death of heat
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652606
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    Kyoukooooo ;_;

    ...KYUUBEEEEY. all my fucking hate
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652609

    Those that return to daily life do so by choice, not by obligation. Kyouko has no life after it got wrecked by Dad finding out, and even asks Madoka why she's going back to class. Homerun has no daily life, and even Mami, while going through the routine of class, had no friends or any real outside life to speak of. Only Sayaka did, and that's because she was a pretty recent convert. I'd imagine if she didn't lose her shit more and more of her life would have been devoted to killing monsters and less to daily life.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652615
    I love it. The best part is the little Kyouko in the last panel.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652624
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    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:48 No.46652625
    >What is Homura going to do now
    Try again in another timeline
    >> Jake the Titan !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:49 No.46652636
    It's "slice of life" mostly and not so much "cute girls doing cute things". There is a difference. Piss episode aside, it was a pretty decent slice of (peacetime military) life.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:49 No.46652646


    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:49 No.46652649
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    well the big freeze theory states taht the universe will expand so much that the space in b/t molecules is massive and no friction or any other sort of energy will be produced, thus slowly freezing the universe to death at absolute zero
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:49 No.46652651
    Maybe Kyubey doesn't has ability to grant wishes. Maybe it's energy from girls souls that do it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:49 No.46652659
    so season 2 confirmed?

    Homura will bring Madoka in another timeline.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:50 No.46652670

    Yeah, I was forcing a point, but the point is still valid:

    Fucked up shit is only fucked up shit if you have normal shit to compare it to. If your entire life is nothing but fucked up shit, then you're actually more likely to be able to deal with it than if your life was a mix of fucked up and non-fucked up shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:50 No.46652674

    I can argue with you about that, but i'll choose not to.

    Madoka is a speculah animu under the mahou shojo genre. It's main charm, admittedly, is how shocking the plot twists are and how far Urobuchi subverts the Mahou Shoujo stereotypes.

    But sadly, instead of making the usual mascot an evil deceitful spawn of chaos, he's actually an alien doing contracts for the greater good.

    That is, assuming he isn't lying.
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/04/11(Fri)00:50 No.46652677
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    I wish people would stop saying she killed herself because she was close to turning into a witch. Yeah, it was looking darker, but no where near the level Sayaka was before she snapped.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:50 No.46652679
    Hmmm, let's see.

    Kyouko found out the truth, that magical girls are witches. Ironically, her father was right about his insult, she's pretty much a baby witch. She realizes that if she wants to prevent herself from becoming a witch, she must kill witches, which she now knows are magical girls. She put on a tough girl act before, and said she'd kill Sayaka for getting in the way, but it really seemed more like she was trying to show Sayaka the ropes so that she doesn't end up getting herself killed.

    Now she knows that no matter what she does, she'll turn into a witch eventually. So, her last hope was that seeing if it was possible to actually save a witch. When she saw that it was impossible to do so, she figured she might as well go out with a bang than live the rest of her life getting nibbled at by despair until becoming a witch.

    She didn't want Homura to interfere. She didn't want to escape. She wanted it to end there.

    It seems reasonable to me. I didn't find it too surprising or out of place to see her sacrifice herself. It wasn't because she wasn't strong enough to defeat Sayaka on her own without a FINAL BUSTER. I didn't feel it was out of some romance end, but I won't deny the possibility for those that want to see it that way. For all I know, it could be one of the many factors that contributed to her decision.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:50 No.46652686

    End of episode 12, Madoka wakes up.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:51 No.46652704
    Big freeze would eventually end up in heat death
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:51 No.46652707
    oh god anything but DREAM END.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:51 No.46652714
    And it's by the removal of the soul from the body and turning into a soul gem that enough 'energy' is released to grant the wish, but ONLY Incubator's 'species' can do it.

    Thus, they're still required. They're just keys unlocking the potential energy within young females at the core of it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652731
    You don't understand. It's fucking inevitable.
    What she learned by watching Madoka utterly fail at reactivating Sayaka's humanity is that there is no other way out. Either you die, or you turn into a Witch.
    She wasn't anywhere close, I agree, but she knew that was ultimately close ENOUGH.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652737
    For maximum trollage.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652739
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    >Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
    >Madoka has yet to Magica
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652746
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    It's possible. But the wishes we know he's granted so far could well be possible via alien tech; especially the hand surgery.

    Although using their souls to do it would explain why the wish has to come from the heart.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652748


    That was pretty much confirmed in ep8.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652755
    how about a begin episode one end
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652758
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    So you want to cut out the two best characters? Madness!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:52 No.46652759
    A platonic love? Yes.

    A romantic love? All the yurifags flame fanning, nothing more/less.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:53 No.46652775
    >how far Urobuchi subverts the Mahou Shoujo stereotypes.
    Did no one else appreciate just how fucking amazing it was to see "the power of friendship" FAIL to drag a corrupted character's humanity back out of the darkness, for once?
    Madoka couldn't do it. They couldn't bring Sayaka back.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:54 No.46652782

    It's an homage to Wizard of Oz.

    *cue Gen trollface*
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/04/11(Fri)00:54 No.46652788
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    yeah but people are suggesting she did it as if she was going to turn into a witch RIGHT AFTER THIS BATTLE.
    THAT is what annoys me.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:55 No.46652828
    Yeah, you've got it exactly.
    If only the rest of the viewerbase could come to the same conclusion. God, everywhere I look there's another son of a bitch screaming "WHAT THE FUCK, WHY WAS KYUKO IN LOVE WITH SAYKA DURRR?!"
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:56 No.46652837
    Oh well. It can't be helped, bro.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:56 No.46652840
    why so denial?

    but here's the problem: nobody expected it to work. so it's not really a shocker...
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:56 No.46652857
    Am i the only one that liked the latest battle the most because of the setting of the battle and the song?
    Also to me this battle ended the best because everyother big battle ended up with you know who getting beheaded
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    Goes to school with Sayaka and Hitomi.
    Turns out there are two transfer students: Homura, the shy girl that rarely speaks and stutters when she does, and Kyouko, the tomboy that is actually very feminine inside.

    And so begin Madoka's SoL adventures.
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    There wasn't even a reaction really. Well, there was that flicker with the Charlotte eyes, but that was about it.

    Love fails and despair rules.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:58 No.46652906
    all i know is i want the damn OST when it comes out.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:58 No.46652916
    Yeah. I gotta say, I wasn't expecting this episode to be a rescue arc. And when it turned into one, I was... kinda expecting it to work. And it didn't. And that's awesome.

    Because fuck rescue arcs.
    >> Jake the Budgerigar !6kgj/OnyWw 03/04/11(Fri)00:58 No.46652919
    This. Honestly, if I was in Kyouko's place, I would've tried to do the same thing.

    I admire the human experience, and I think that struggling in the face of amazing odds is a really compelling aspect of humanity to watch. However, I also think that despair in futility and the idea of being trapped between a rock and a hard place and being FORCED to choose is also a really human experience. I respect Kyouko's decision. I respect her ability to actually make a decision in the midst of her emotional turmoil far more than Madoka's indecision.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)00:59 No.46652954

    Yeah, I really liked the overall setting of the battle.


    This too. I imagined praying in the Earthbound final boss and having nothing happen.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:00 No.46652970
    I'm with you and the guy you're responding to. It's refreshing to see despair happen in an anime, and done well. What makes it more delicious is the hint that in this series, there is NO way out for them. There's no hero to save the day with "happily ever after".
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:00 No.46652986
    A warlock might be rarer, plus, they would probably be unfightable in terms of destructiveness.

    For example, Gertrude would be absorbed in her pretty pretty roses until you say hello with a boot heel, but a warlock would take the initiative and exterminate you.

    In fact, Sayaka was a tomboy and she was the only witch on camera so far that personally engaged intruders right off the bat.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:01 No.46653004
    It's time to repost shitty theories and bump stupid general threads, and I'm all out of bump limit


    new thread
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:01 No.46653012
    Because there's nothing to imply that the two actually loved each other romantically. I'd say that the love Kyouko had for Sayaka was more of a sisterly thing, that once she saw how much shit the other had 'fallen into' emotionally all she wanted to do was pick her back up and get her to keep walking.

    For a more down to earth scenario, it would be like if a set of brothers was walking along, both were depressed about some shit involving their parents. The younger, more inexperienced one just sort of stops and gives up, but the older one (even under the depression he's suffering) picks him up by the collar and gives him a slap on the back to keep moving. It's not the best scenario, maybe someone can provide a better example, but it's all I can think of.

    That is, at best, as far as I could see Kyouko 'loving' Sayaka. Anything else beyond that is shipping more forced than Key animu drama.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:03 No.46653072
    You know what's funny? Seeing you write that wall of text and I just lol and dismiss it as a retard's rambling and move on
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:03 No.46653078
    Now that you mention it, that is pretty awesome. Call me naive, but I was convinced Madoka was getting through to Sayaka and that it was going to work.

    I think the worst part is that Sayaka probably COULD hear Madoka, and the reason Sayaka grabbed Madoka was because she didn't want to hear it. Madoka was torturing Sayaka, filling her with guilt and regret and memories, and she wanted to shut Madoka up.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:04 No.46653115
    I'm still wondering what the deal was with Sayaka and Kyouko's silhouettes joining after the explosion, other than yuri fanservice. Was Sayaka's soul set free or something? I thought Kyubee said that once you die everything's over, and the soul dies with it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:08 No.46653259

    Except that males suck at magic.

    QB said so.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:12 No.46653383
    if this is true then what if madoka woul contracted QB at the beggining with her wish of simply be a maho shoujo
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:19 No.46653658
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    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:20 No.46653685
    The question is: why bring Madoka to call out for Sayaka instead of Kamijou?
    For a second, I believed Homura did that (that scene with Kamijou happens right after Homura appears to save Madoka), but I guess that would be too smart for anime.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/11(Fri)01:22 No.46653743
    >retardly dismiss it as a rambling
    Fixed for you.

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