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    147 KB Madoka Thread Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:00 No.46647111  
    Continued from >>46645426

    irc: #madoka @
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:02 No.46647141
    fuck it.

    Now what.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:02 No.46647172
    Homura dies and Madoka is alone and then she dies in the final episode. Depressing end.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:02 No.46647179
    now we just hope QB lied and Homura and Madoka don't die.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647188
    I don't get it, why is Kyouko willing to continue living after her father kills her entire family leaving her homeless and with all the people she loves dead, yet she knows Sayaka for a weak and suddenly decides she'd rather end it there?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647193
    People think there's gonna be a reset end? I really don't think so....I think Madoka might kill herself...
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647198
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    Dem Charlotte-like eyeballs...
    >> Orihara !IZAYAXs/Z2 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647206
    Is is next Thursday yet?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647207
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    Keikaku means plan.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647213
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647219
    These threads are only going to get worse because people are coming up with really really stupid questions to break down the Madoka narrative.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:03 No.46647220
    Her soul gem was getting increasingly cloudy too.
    >> The /a/ Board Police 03/03/11(Thu)22:04 No.46647224
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:04 No.46647232

    Shrug, she's a teenage. Perfect time to be rebelling against daddy and having some lesbian fling on the side.

    Turned out a little more than a fling though
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:04 No.46647243
    Why do you keep asking this?

    I'll bet you're the same fucking anon that complained about Sayaka's motivations making no sense.

    Fuck off.
    >> Jake the Blue Crab !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:04 No.46647253
    Poor Sayaka. You suffered 3 deaths:
    1) Dying as a human to become a mahou shoujo,
    2) Dying as a mahou shoujo to become a witch, and
    3) Dying as a witch.

    You were a good girl. ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:04 No.46647254
    Because hormones
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:04 No.46647255
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    If I wished for it, would Kyuubei let me fuck him/her/it?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647259
    /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
    Make a contract with me, and every day is Thursday.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647265
    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! Why did you have to do that Kyoko! You were my favorite character...
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647271
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    This ep made me cry

    Give me a hug, mami~
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647275
    Kyouko's dad was right she was a witch

    Take that little girl!
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647276
    Madoka becomes MS, reforms the world with her vast powers, everything resets to ep. 1. loose ends remain loose.

    SHAFT confirmed for greater trolls than KyoAni
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647280
    You mean like every madoka thread ever?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647285
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    You guys sure work fast.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647286
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647287
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    If I wished for it, would QB let me fuck him/her/it?
    >> The /a/ Board Police 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647288
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    >No Morning Rescue this week either
    What the fuck is this shit?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:05 No.46647293

    Except that there are already handful of anime titles with magic=alien science.

    You do not bring science if your supposed plot is a retelling of a little girl in the shoes of a man who led a tragic life by dealing with the devil.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:06 No.46647296
    Kyubey is basically a cute, fuzzy Vulcan?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:06 No.46647304
    Wait a minute, I'm just going to stop TIME for a while here.
    >> Jake the Softshell Crab !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:06 No.46647317
    You forget the part about her recently learning that she's dead and doomed to become a witch in the best/worst case scenario.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:06 No.46647319
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:06 No.46647323

    Nah, they've still got a ways to go before thWAIT WHAT WAS KYOUKO'S FUCKING ABILITY

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:06 No.46647325
    It's a jarring character 180, but given the circumstances it's certainly plausible.
    You go from being a lone wolf who fights for survival to suddenly establishing a bond with someone and of course it's going to fuck with your rationality and reasoning.

    Kyouko's death though? THAT was bullshit. She had more than enough power to take down Sayaka, and why the fuck would you sacrifice yourself when you know the latter couldn't be saved?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647327
    I'll be honest, I didn't care for the episode that much. lolentropy screwed with my suspension of belief.

    That said, EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN. One poor episode doesn't ruin a series, even with lolentropy.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647330
    Pretty much this. Bitches ain't gotta make sense. It's magic!
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647331
    I doubt qb is really an alien, its all bullshit that he's using to convince madoka that her sacrifice would be noble, but its really being used to summon satan or some equally demonic shit.
    A man can dream can't he?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647334
    Everybody Dies The Anime
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647343
    Not stupid questions, people are just coming in missing countless threads where we've already dicussed this and expect further progress to be made by rehashing old shit
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647348
    If I wished Qb died what would happen?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:07 No.46647354
    Entropy is pretty damn universal. To stop time she has to exert a lot of lolmagic.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:08 No.46647361
    He would say:
    I can't grant that wish
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:08 No.46647373
    We all have to die so it's realistic.
    >> The /a/ Board Police 03/03/11(Thu)22:08 No.46647375
    Kyouko was fucked up badly in the fight. She was bleeding and getting smacked around all over. I think by the end she just wanted to do the only thing she could for Sayaka: let her not die alone.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:08 No.46647380
    Telepathy, sure the other girls can use it too but they need QB
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:08 No.46647386
    >Stopping time, magical barriers, making guns appear from nowhere, transforming into a different creature
    >nobody on /a/ complains
    >/a/ throws a fit

    Really guys?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:08 No.46647387

    He'd turn into rice.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647391
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    Yes, only to be replaced by a new one.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647393
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    Whining aside, I'm really impressed you guys translated the ruins and extracted the music from Sayaka's notes only a few hours after broadcast.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647395
    so the amount energy Madoka will create when she becomes a witch will be so great that the earth possibly being destroyed isn't a big deal to the incubators?

    where will they make future witches
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647403
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647405
    then purify that shit.

    Madoka already broke its own narrative. Homura not killing Sayaka instantly when it's been established that Sayaka is horribly weak and Homura retarded strong. Homura saying she'll kill Sayaka last episode if she'd do anything to upset Madoka, only to completely not do that after the attempt fails.

    next Eva my ass, when average viewers are calling shit out it's clearly busted.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647408
    He uses girls because boys would be too powerful of warlocks and cause a unbalance in the universe.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647409
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    So ... QB's real form is ...
    Nagato Yuki?
    Well, an interface anyways.

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:09 No.46647411
    Kyubey is definitely lying about that entropy bullshit. Either that or he is twisting the truth into something that will convince Madoka to become a mahou shojo. And why did Kyoko have to die? WHY?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:10 No.46647418

    Her options were get dead or turn into a witch.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:10 No.46647427
    There's a bazillion races in the galaxy. Gotta be a few with emotions.

    They just found one that was Tech level 1 or less and had a ball with experimentation.

    Or Kyubee is a BIG FAT LIAR
    >> The /a/ Board Police 03/03/11(Thu)22:10 No.46647429
    Most people are fine with it. It's was only a vocal minority or idiots in the last few threads who took issue.
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/03/11(Thu)22:10 No.46647439
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    EPISODE: 10
    >Madoka Angst

    EPISODE: 11
    >Homura Angst and backstory

    EPISODE: 12
    >Final battle. A bunch of shit nobody could predict happens. The End. Shitstorms everywhere.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:11 No.46647443

    Because the above mentioned was magic. You DO NOT FUCK UP science. It was best to retain the whole magical aspect of the show.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:11 No.46647453
    I don't see why Homura doesn't clear it up with Madoka that QB is a liar and what is really going on.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:11 No.46647455
    i am dissapointed that the witches have a more or less random appearance. i would have liked it more if sayaka as a witch would look like her human form
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:11 No.46647460
    that's called traveling at light speed. not breaking the laws of nature.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:11 No.46647468
    Time is just as universal as entropy. I don't think she stopped time in the entire universe but rather only in a certain area, but it would still require her to somehow isolate that space from the rest of the universe. Such a feat shouldn't be too different from doing something to entropy.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647475
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    The one who said Kyoko's soul gem wouldn't be corrupted, let's take a look over here at Kyoko's soul gem BEFORE SHE STARTS DOING ANYTHING. (Note, look at the bottom and sides) She then has to use magic to find Sayaka, use magic to defend Madoka, have a lot of bad thoughts by remembering Sayaka, really, just corrupting the hell out of that gem. Her soul gem should be pretty damn dark at that point. Probably helped her in her decision to kill herself along with Sayaka, but now Homura is alone with Walpurgis.

    tl;dr Talking out of my ass with the corruption? Look at the bottom and sides of Kyoko's gem before she does anything.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647476

    More like;

    EPISODE 12
    >Everything predicted by everyone on every forum/imageboard comes true. Everyone is stunned by the obvious twists. Claims madoka to be a deep anime.
    >> Jake the Influenza !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647481
    Fact: What people say and what people do are oftentimes completely different things. It says something about a character if they try to commit themselves to one goal but keep on compromising on those goals.

    While I was doing the music transcription, I missed all the rune translations. Anyone up for reposting?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647483
    That was magic powers retard. That is obviously not going to make sense. But I think people need to calm down because QB could just have been trolling again.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647486
    10 is probablygoingtobe homura flashback
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647489
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    so madoka will need to turn into a magical girl to defeat a super powerful witch only for herself to turn into an even more ultra super powerful witch that will fuck shit up even more

    this is stupid
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647490
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    The other QBs that have died are actually other QBs, and their race constitutes a bunch of insufferably cute aliens that want to kill little girls for the greater universe?

    What the flying fuck? Dear god, seriously, what the fuck in fucking fucks of fuck, my brain is so fucking full of fuck it's not even fucking funny.

    I don't get where they get these fucking ideas from, I swear.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647492
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    You are awesome for mentioning the best short story ever.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:12 No.46647494
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    This is basically My-HiME all over again. Everyone dies, the main enemy is an alien getting the girls to fight and corrupting some of them all to benefit itself, lesbians everywhere.

    The only difference is that Mai was actually badass and Madoka is just an annoying ass.
    >> The /a/ Board Police 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647495
    >You DO NOT FUCK UP science
    Do you have a science degree, or just have a stick up your ass? Or both?

    Most viewers probably have never even heard of entropy until now.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647498
    It's not Kyubey who's stopping time. It's Homura.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647499
    >when it's been established that Sayaka is horribly weak and Homura retarded strong.

    Completely false. Homura is actually weakest. It's been said in interviews plus she uses mundane attacks because her only useful ability is her time magic. Sayaka is actually pretty strong with multiple physical attacks and regeneration regenerate making her dangerous for Homura to fight against.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647500
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    >traveling at light speed
    >not breaking the laws of nature
    hokay buddy
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647502
    oh and i was dissapointed that sayaka didnt kill Hitomi
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647504
    what? link to this?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647510
    Traveling at the speed of light, even if you could, wouldn't completely stop time.
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    >teenage girls traveling at the speed of light
    >not breaking laws of nature
    nigga wut?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:13 No.46647519
    I'm not sure if you're just being clever, but anything with practical mass travelling at the speed of light is actually against the laws of physics.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:14 No.46647539
    I figure it's a hivemind operating universally through the identical units we know as Kyubey.
    >> AIJOU !dYUUJOUw3k 03/03/11(Thu)22:14 No.46647545
    After I watched it a few times, I concluded that Sayaka must have really hurt Kyoko when she hit the ground.

    Still, if Homura had helped, I think it would have gone better. I kind of wish it had explained that better.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:14 No.46647549
    NO. Kyubey is Kyubey. He's the same bastard we met in episode 1. He just has back-up bodies, probably made to lure in cute girls into making contracts.

    There is a race of Incubators, but Kyubey is the only one we've seen.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:15 No.46647555
    It looks like they have some sort of hive mind consciousness.
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    >QB wants to sacrifice Madoka for the universe
    >Homura wants to sacrifice the universe for Madoka

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:15 No.46647559
    Same here. I don't think the Kyuubies are aliens, but more something like the keepers of the universe stability. Human beeings are nothing for them, they are like machines. Maybe they were created this way.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:15 No.46647561

    But that's been done to death. In fact, the witches as disfigured eldritch horrors are a large part of the show's charm.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:15 No.46647566
    becoming a mahou shoujo isn't breaking laws of nature either
    >it's legit
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:15 No.46647578

    fine, just below light speed. time's not stopped, it's just infinitesimally slow
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    >watch latest episode
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:15 No.46647585
    that's been common knowledge since episode 1. If you didn't like it then, why complain about it now.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:16 No.46647599

    Except there won't be a reset ending.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:16 No.46647603
    it's fucking Satan, or some equivalent entity of pure evil.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:16 No.46647604

    You can't comprehend QB. It's impossible. It was not meant to be.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:16 No.46647605
    Unless she suicides like Kyoko did
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:16 No.46647608
    Is that a quote from some promotional material or something?
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    all my hate
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:17 No.46647623

    Sayaka's witch name was translated as Oktavia von Seckendorff and the posters were basically Kamijou's concert times.

    There's a pic of other ruins all saying "LOOK AT ME" but I can't post it for some reason
    >> Jake the Worm !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:17 No.46647636
    I'll toot my own horn for the music portion: >>46646144
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:17 No.46647649

    What's funny is that QB has yet to lie, though. He simply omits the dirty truth. Every time he has been confronted about the shitty stuff, he has been straight up about it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:18 No.46647653
    What the fuck was that, anyway? The real Sayaka-witch?

    There was a Gertrud-looking silhouette on the wall in parts of that fight, too, which was probably that thing again.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:18 No.46647655
    Or so he claims I hope he is lying just so he can reach his true form by using Madoka.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:18 No.46647661
    It doesn't matter, because it's Homura who's performing it. The ability is a result of her own soul and wish, all Kyubey did was make it possible for her to use it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:18 No.46647662
    An object with a mass of ~50kg, a girl of Homura's age, has a mass too large to go even near light speed.
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    >enthropy discussion in Madoka thread
    >march 01, 2011
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:18 No.46647672
    Thanks bro.
    If Madoka solves everything by wishing for light this whole premise will be redeemed.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647699

    /a/ was always picky about these kind of stuff

    >Eucliwood wearing armor
    >Saeko's tits being faster than a bullet
    >anything /k/ related
    >Burger-kun dying to rain drops
    >> Gameboo !mpZx7zHN/Q 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647704
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    >I'm not lying. I'm only intentionally misleading you into a misunderstanding that will benefit me in the end.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647706
    I can't read cyrodiil runes either, nigger, translate that shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647712
    lol russia
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647721

    >implying the Incubators will let that happen

    you think that after they spent so much time trying to get her to make a contract they just let her die?

    they will do everything in their power to make sure she becomes a witch
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647729
    Sayaka taking the form of a derranged knight is hardly rabdom.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647730
    >want to discuss the latest episode
    >find the latest madoka thread
    >each post is about physics
    fuck this shit i hate you nerds
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:19 No.46647732
    Why do people think Homura is strong? She's magically weak, which makes sense since she represses her emotions. She spams her time ability which looks to be technological rather than magical, but she doesn't have good attacks and it can't save her from everything. Sayaka-witch would be very tough for her defeat alone. With Kyouko she might be able to aid, but at the cost of leaving Madoka vulnerable. Kyouko event outright says this and people still don't get it.
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    Now I can feel her up without Madoka ever knowing it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:20 No.46647737
    Well, the way it was translated the science was fucked up. Whenever he said 'energy' in his little speech, he should have said something impressively specific (and accurate) , like "Gibbs Free Energy." Just for shits and giggles, the runes should have included a reference to Boltzmann.

    What I liked is that Kyuubee just plain doesn't understand magic (if he's telling the truth). He'll take the batteries, thank you, but his species hasn't been able to explore just what they're fucking with.

    Madoka might be more than they were bargaining for.
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    >mf after this episode

    Also, you guys... this thread moves so fast it's hard to keep up.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:20 No.46647740
    I feel like at least half the people that comment in these threads don't actually watch the show, and just make comments and arguments based on what the people who watched the show post/say.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:20 No.46647742
    No, there will be an 'everybody resurrects, live happy ever after' ending instead
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:20 No.46647753
    Yeah, it was stylized so maybe you missed it, but Sakura was gushing blood. What was it that Homerun had just told her at the start of the episode about stuff being in the way? She knew she'd just be in the way in her condition.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:21 No.46647766
    you can google translate link of something. They were discussed that Kyuubey might be fighting entropy and then went to discussing Entropy itself.
    >> Jake the Rock Lobster !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:21 No.46647771
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    Did anyone translate the runes in the music? They look like lyrics to me.
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:21 No.46647776
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:21 No.46647777
    I hate to side with coobie but its true, it isnt lieing, it's called read in between the lines QB gave magis their wish, therefore he fullfilled his part of the contract, with some strings attached(soul gem, witch turn etc)
    like in any contract would anyone sign it if they knew full well what would happen, no
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:21 No.46647779
    Jesus fucking christ. MAGIC. FUCKING MAGIC. It's not Scientific Girl Madoka fucking Realistica, you fucking neck beard. Stop over analyzing shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:21 No.46647793
    There's probably a wish that beats the system

    is Madoka smart enough to figure it out?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:22 No.46647797
    That Sayaka's witch name:

    Oktavia von Seckendorff
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:22 No.46647802
    You fuck tards have got to be the biggest morons ever.

    The interview said specifically Homura is weak MAGICALLY yet all you stupid thinks that means she's weakest in a fight....NO.

    She'd kill every single MG so far by stopping time and planting a knife in their eye. There's no contest.

    Only enemies she'd have trouble fighting are tough witches like Sayaka Witch who won't die to a few grenades.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:22 No.46647803
    Name 1 thing Kyuubei has ever lied about. Just 1 thing.

    He said he doesn't know what it is to trick someone. He has omitted information. He has never said anything that was not true, and was in fact straightforward when pressed for more information.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:22 No.46647811
    welcome to 4chan
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:22 No.46647819
    Madoka will die.

    But her soul will chose to go back in time, to the time when she was happiest, and she will be back at the first episode.

    Homura, who loves Madoka wants to be with her too, but since she already loves Sayaka, she'll go back in time before Madoka is born, and became her mother.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:23 No.46647831
    Regular Sayaka wouldn't die so easily from a knife to the eye, either, with her recovery abilities.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:23 No.46647852
    Where did I imply that she would be weak against MGs? I was just pointing out that she wouldn't have been able to help much against Sayaka-witch like people have been saying.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647855
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647875
    >But her soul will chose to go back in time
    Nope. Stopped right there
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647877
    by your understanding of physics, maybe. by a species millennia more advanced than ours?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647881

    She probably will, if inserted deep enough into the brain.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647888
    Very good point, anon. So far all she's done besides teleport is, what, throw grenades?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647889
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    is it that time of month for her already ?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:24 No.46647890
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:25 No.46647895
    >Just 1 thing.
    >He said he doesn't know what it is to trick someone
    >tricked Kyouko by lying to her

    The little fucker hasn't lied...until this episode.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:25 No.46647902
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    What about the fact that Homura hasn't made a wish in this timeline?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:25 No.46647910
    > He said he doesn't know what it is to trick someone.
    And yet he did it with Kyouko; sure, he told the truth, and did specifically state that it had never happened before, no precedence, etc., but that magical girls defy reason so you never know...

    And then he goes and says "oh come on, that's impossible" when Homura talks to him about it. It may not have been an active trick, but it was still a trick.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:25 No.46647913
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:25 No.46647917
    >her time ability which looks to be technological rather than magical

    Good point. People keep saying "its obvious Homura wished to go back in time which is why she has time powers" but then why does she need that weird clock shield and stuff?
    >> Orihara !IZAYAXs/Z2 03/03/11(Thu)22:25 No.46647918
    I knew it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:26 No.46647930
    He didn't lie. It never happened before, doesn't mean it can't happen. No precedent means no one's tried it yet.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:26 No.46647931
    This reminds me, isn't the Ordo Xenos due to arrive in this thread soon?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:26 No.46647934
    As a convenient means to activate her power?
    >> Jake the Yucca !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:26 No.46647942
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    Ah, okay. Cool. Any idea what the small letters under the first line of music say? It's clearly not her name.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:27 No.46647956
    There might even be precedents but he's allowing for the possibility of this time being different
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:27 No.46647962
    ;_; Sayaka died today as well. Why don't anybody care about her?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:27 No.46647970
    That comes down to translation.
    There might be some tiny chance that an Grief Seed could be returned to a Soul Gem, and as long as that chance is there (regardless of it being almost impossible) Kyubey isn't lying.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:27 No.46647972
    I was fine when it was MAGIC. Then Kyubey came and told how they developed a TECHNOLOGY to do all that magic stuff. And then they even brought SCIENCE and PHYSICS in play. It's not magic anymore, it's fucking science now and they fucked it up.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:27 No.46647974
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    Would you make a contract with me, Shinji?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:27 No.46647975
    She died last week. That... thing is just what was left of her.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:28 No.46647980
    because a plot fuckup is more important that a character dying.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:28 No.46647982

    >Mami binds her
    >Even with timestop she could'nt move
    >Get Gate of Musketlon'd

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:28 No.46647991
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    We were ;_; the last episode. Did you miss the flood of "I hated Sayaka but this episode made me _____"?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:28 No.46647992
    We accepted an mourned her death last week this week is Kyouko's turn.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:28 No.46647999
    Yes this. Same colors and everything. Also creepy stalker aliens.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:29 No.46648012
    We wrote her off when she became a witch. I don't think any of us even thought she could be saved at that point so she was already dead.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:29 No.46648024
    The thing is, Homura didn't go BACK in time - she jumped to a completely different timeline.

    If Homura can do that, she must have somehow gotten her hands on Incubator technology.

    God knows if we'll ever find out what her wish was - we never found out Kyoko's, either.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:29 No.46648027
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    Donald cares about her body, at least.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:29 No.46648033
    time stop wouldn't help she was stuck until Mami released her or died.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:29 No.46648037
    So how you guys enjoying Magical Shoujo Gantz/TTGL/Evangelion/Bokurano?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:30 No.46648040
    Just watched the gg release, I have no problems with Kyubey reveal, plus it is just not relevant to the topic/theme of the show. Your terrible aspie vs aspie psychic discussions amuse me.

    Shaft over-dones Homura hair flip, poses and shit. It makes hard to take some scenes seriously.

    And it seems that people have problems understading Kyouko character now like they had with Sayaka some few episodes ago.

    Also, why do people take everything Kyubey says at face value when we see him lying to Kyouko during the same episode? Fucking stupid.

    Maybe it all is just because we have more people watching now? (and therefore more dumber/slower people too)

    Anyway, I hope this "Shaft fails at writing for not making characterization in the more obvious and viewer-insulting way possible" and psychic discussions that go nowhere stops soon enough.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:30 No.46648043

    Except Kyoko flat-out fucking told us what her wish was, you derp.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:30 No.46648048
    It was her own soul and wish that granted her this ability. All Kyubey did when they made the contract was allow this ability to manifest itself.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:30 No.46648050
    Scoorge brought her body donald.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:30 No.46648062
    >never found Kyoko's wish

    Did you like miss an episode or something?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:30 No.46648063
    But Homura has a Soul Gem this would mean she contracted with an Incubator.
    >> Jake the Elderberry !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:31 No.46648076
    I only just now realized how out-of-place blushlines are when she's at the height of her regret and about to die and become a huge, unfeeling monster.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:31 No.46648089
    We don't know any of that. The nature of Homura's character is still completely unknown, despite what QB supposedly claimed. You should know by now he is not the msot reliable source at all

    Homura stop time before the binds even reach her, shove a knife in her eye. You are stupid.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:31 No.46648093
    Honestly, we see that Kyouko became a Puella Magi for a selfless reason. It backlashed, so she decided to go the selfish route, Hey, she gets to become a powerful being for a living, at least she has a purpose. She doesn't do it to help people anymore, she just takes it as the job she contracted for.

    But then she figures that her soul was literally bargained for and that she'll eventually turn into the thing she was destroying for livelihood. She got double screwed by the fact that her life was turned into this twisted game, and that she just realized it now and has to witness this other girl go through it.

    She already had her share of being a Mahou Shoujo after all these revelations and it wasn't even for her benefit anymore. Lost everything and is now a dispensable battery. What else is there to really live for?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:31 No.46648094
    It's all good. Family. Share and share alike.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:32 No.46648095
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    So who caught the Bokurano reference this week? Human beings unwittingly contract with an alien to save the universe, suffering immensely before dying in the process?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:32 No.46648116
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:32 No.46648118
    It was for people to listen to her father, did you mean Mami, which was probably to live?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:32 No.46648123
    So sayakas body is still laying in the red hairs house? Can't wait to see the police find it next week.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:32 No.46648124
    Kinda slow there, Anon. You can try figuring which chair belongs to which witch though.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:33 No.46648128
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    Next episode guys. Next episode. You heard it here first.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:33 No.46648146
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    So basically the thing we saw that was being fought in episode 1 was madoka in witch form.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648156
    I am the omission of my words.
    Contracts are my bodies, magic is my blood.
    I have created over thousand witches.
    Unknown to lies,
    nor known to emotions.
    And yet these hands will truly never hold any energy.
    So as I pray, Unlimited Puella Magi Works.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648158
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    >QB aliens want to prevent heat death/whatever
    >QB aliens discover magic, which defies what they know of physics
    >Why don't they just use magic to fix their problem?

    Uh, that is exactly what they are doing.

    Also, pic related mixing science with magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648163
    Kyoko is the perfect example of writers killing off characters because there is no more use for them.

    Her death was so fucking stupid. "I should probably retreat with Homura and Madoka like last time and then return with a plan and Homura to take down Sayaka, but instead I'll suicide myself so Sayaka can not die alone, even though Sayaka is already dead. This will leave Homura alone to face Walpurgis Night, but hey, /a/ will think I'm a bro for this."
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648166
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    You're late.
    From the wiki
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648176
    It never happened before means there's no precedent. That doesn't mean it's impossible. QB isn't omniscient...he flat out said he knew no way whatsoever that it could happen, but a way he doesn't know of could still exist.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648186
    No. That's Walpurgisnacht. Madoka is not a witch, yet.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:34 No.46648188
    >Kyubey is an alien
    >There is no magic


    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:35 No.46648195
    How? Seriously, explain how this would happen, I'm interested.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:35 No.46648201
    what happens if Madoka wishes the Universe will never die
    >> Jake the Tick !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:35 No.46648204
    I'm still waiting for the police to realize that all Madoka's friends wind up dead or missing (but in all actuality is dead).
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:35 No.46648209
    Kyouko> Mami

    Sayaka is such a lucky girl.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:35 No.46648213
    >following wikipedia articles
    >so many tabs

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:36 No.46648225
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:36 No.46648228
    >My lesbian sempai cant be this eaten!
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:36 No.46648236
    But... there is magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:36 No.46648241
    But bigger trolls than Gainax?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:36 No.46648246
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    2 deaths in 2 episodes....what a treat
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:37 No.46648266

    Thought the same thing when I saw the chairs
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:37 No.46648269

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:37 No.46648270
    So has it been revealed what Homura's wish was?

    And is it true that Mami's wish was to not die alone?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:37 No.46648274
    >There is no magic
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    Also, LOL at all those people that said "Walpurgisnacht is an event." gg was right
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:38 No.46648296
    >There is no magic
    fucking aspies
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648320
    I don't get everyone saying Sayaka died last ep.

    Turning into a witch != dying, it's just maturation.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648323
    >Before Episode 9
    Yup, Kyouko and Sayaka will definitely die. YAY FOR DEATH!
    >After Episode 9
    >And then Kyubey was an alien

    M E D U K A G E N E R A L
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648325
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    Wont be needing this anymore.

    Say hello to your Madoka wishing to stop entropy while fighting space rabbits piloting X-wings.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648327
    This so fucking much. Bringing in aliens as an explanation is ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648331
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    >Witches are mahou shoujo
    >Walpurgis night is an incredibly powerful witch
    >mfw when Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis night

    I know it seems like an innocent spinoff, but we also thought Mami would be around for a longer time, and how's that going so far?

    On that note, don't you think this latest episode can give us some speculah on Kazumi magica? Maybe she's some sort of experiment by the incubators to create a super powerful energy source by themselves.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648338
    Oops, didn't meant to quote anyone.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648341
    Um bro I think it was implied Kyouko took some serious injuries while getting stomped on by Sayaka and she doesn't have the auto heal either. She died like a true Lancah no where near the final battle but a true badass anyway.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:39 No.46648342
    What's even more deliciously funny is gg complained on their website that people thought they implied it was a witch, and promptly said that they didn't understand why anyone would think that was the case.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:41 No.46648367
    Is there an easy torrent to get the manga someone can link me?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:41 No.46648386
    so if Madoka did wish to just become a magical girl would that make it impossible for her to become a witch?
    >> Ryu S. (Yukifag to no end) !v.eBcKo/Wc 03/03/11(Thu)22:41 No.46648389
    Alright guys.

    Spoil me in one 5-word sentence. I don't want to read the posts below.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:42 No.46648392
    top line: unknown word ("unsc"?), "hope", "Schicksal" (fate)
    bottom line: again "hope" and "Oktavi..." (her name),
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:42 No.46648399
    Seriously, EVERYONE kept it appropriately ambiguous.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:42 No.46648400
    Nutbladder's release is up now.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:42 No.46648402
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    I thought so at first, too.

    Then I immersed myself in the lovely world of Lovecraft Mythos, and how Gen Urobuchi usually draws inspirations from them, as well as Mohiro Kitoh.

    Then, I found them to be reasonable explainations.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:42 No.46648404
    This episode's animation is pretty subpar. The motion is rather stiff with Sayaka throwing static wheels as her only attack and Kyouko's parrying isn't much better. Are they running out of budget?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:42 No.46648420

    Kyouko is gay for Sayaka
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:43 No.46648443
    Kyouko fails, QB alien, entropy.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:43 No.46648444
    Probably diverted to the later episodes
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:43 No.46648454

    They're saving budget for Homura and Madoka's kiss in Episode 12
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    That's not really a sentence.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:43 No.46648464
    Kyouko wants some Sayaka sex.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:43 No.46648465

    After Bakemonogatari I think Shaft should be pretty much set when it comes to budget.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:44 No.46648473
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    Homura is a moron. She's already lived through this and knew when everyone was gonna die. What the fuck is she doing here, if she isn't changing a damn thing?

    Kyubey still met Madoka, Mami still died, Sayaka still made a contract and died, Kyoko still died, and now she's basically screwed. Did Homura's timeline NOT have these events in it? They must have, if she kept telling Mami there was no way she would defeat Charlotte. And yet not once did Homura use her time stop to freeze Mami in place and then defeat Charlotte herself. Not once did she use it for anything useful. Why did she save Sayaka's Soul Gem, when she knew what was gonna happen?

    Homura is a total failure. Her constant obsession with watching Madoka and Madoka ONLY has led to the exact future she didn't want to happen.

    Good job, you stupid bitch. Go flick your hair around dramatically some more. I hope you live to see Madoka die just so I can laugh at your face.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:44 No.46648480
    aliens girls emotions entropy batteries
    >> Jake the Caladcholg !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:44 No.46648482
    Death flags turn out true.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:44 No.46648488
    Kyouko dies, shit gets real
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:44 No.46648489
    Indeed, it's just a list of the important plot points.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:44 No.46648495
    She was killed off to leave Homura alone to fight Walpurgis so Madoka would have to make a contract, QB literally spells this out for you.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:45 No.46648501

    This. It's a very Lovecraftian thing to do: first to create a horrible supernatural entity beyond all conception, and then to reveal that in fact there's nothing supernatural about it and it's really the law of nature itself which a horrible thing beyond conception.

    Cthulhu turns out to be an alien too, remember.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:45 No.46648503
    Kyubey is not Earth. That's a given, and it makes him an alien.

    However, who said that his race wasn't magical to begin with? And why would having magic prevent the Incubators from using technology?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:45 No.46648509
    your mom is gay for sayaka
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:45 No.46648510
    >>There is no magic

    But magic does exist. That's what QB told Madoka his people found, and that's what allowed them to create a method to stop the lack of energy in the universe. I know the whole "lack of energy in the universe" is terribly stupid, and that bringing entropy into this shows a lack of proper research, but I think it's not something so terrible to flame the show.

    Sure, I'd have preferred if they had stuck to magic and Faustian type of plot with demons and shit, but fuck, honestly, the whole science rubbish hasn't undone one bit the entertainment of the previous episode.

    It has, though, rendered a lot of SPECULAH useless, along with a good deal of good-willed expectations. So, I can see why some people are rather angry. However, I still think some people are overreacting.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:45 No.46648511
    Sayaka ruins everything.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:45 No.46648523
    It happened differently last time.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648527
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    It was good until the "he's an alien" bit
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648541
    Most of that money probably went to Aniplex.
    Just like it will here.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648542
    This whole argument is founded on the mistaken belief that magic and technology, if employed in the same setting, are not fundamentally the same thing at their root.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648544
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    Why didn't Kyouko just touch Homuhomu and retreat?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648548
    I think at this point it's becoming more and more clearly that Homura has only done this once.

    She had no real knowledge of people's actions, she only had static knowledge of locations and enemies, but no real understanding of the people she had to deal with
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648550

    Well what happened to her impenetrable waves of steel and blades as shown in her fight with Sayaka in episode 5?

    We can clearly see that she doesn't even dare fight back against the witch since all she did was make a barrier for Madoka.

    poor ass choreography is shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648553
    The chairs? I think I understand.

    Anyone seen Bokurano? Seen those empty chairs left behind as the children die off one by one?

    The empty chairs in Madoka's room are those of the dead Mahou Shoujous. Representing those who became witches in the past.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:46 No.46648558
    Only 2 more episodes left? Ah well it was excellent.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:47 No.46648566
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    I think the biggest reveal this episode was

    Kyouko isn't homeless
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:47 No.46648572
    >Kyuubey is the devil
    >Yeah that's cool and all.

    >Kyuubey is an alien

    That is you, /a/.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:47 No.46648579

    Was it implied in the manga that she's a time traveler? Just curious, I only started the series this week and just finished the latest episode.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:47 No.46648584
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    Let's see what the great plot of Madoka is about.


    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:47 No.46648588
    actually, 3 more episodes
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:48 No.46648597
    >kyokok dies, shit gets stupid
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:48 No.46648607
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    If you think about it, it's the most reasonable, down to earth explaination.

    However, what I think it lacked was strength. As in, actually making you imagine this planet filled with cute fuckers in a hivemind with its own grand technology and whatnot. Instead, the way it was handled was "lol, aliens", which was...disappointing.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:48 No.46648621
    this is why it's all downhill. there is no other reason.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648623
    Or it could be that she went through so many loops that:

    1) Her knowledge is muddled.

    2) Having seen so many people die, she pretty much shut down as a defence mechanism.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648624
    >sex time!
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648628

    >> Jake the Muskrat !6kgj/OnyWw 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648632
    Because a teenage girl had just recently come upon several rather nasty revelations and is going through a very emotionally turbulent portion of her un-life. tl;dr: emo suicidalness
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648639
    It's not.

    Right now she could be:

    -from an alternate timeline
    -was here all along but the world resetted
    -your mom
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648651
    Errr yea my bad. By the way was it ever confirmed that the dude who got his arm healed went out with that other girl or maybe he's looking for sayaka irl?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:49 No.46648652
    "Magic" here is essentially a black box to Incubators.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:50 No.46648664
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    Kyuubey is related to Nagato Yuki.
    He's a nonhumanoid interface sent by the Thought Entity.
    There is an existence -- a human capable of creating multiple labyrinths despite not being a witch or a mahou shoujo.
    Her name: Suzumiya Haruhi, codename Walpurgisnacht.
    Known familiars: Kyon, Mikuru, Koizumi

    In 2 weeks, Kyon's school is having a field trip to a certain city...
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:50 No.46648665
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    >a whole planet of QB's
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:50 No.46648676

    QB is lying
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:51 No.46648687
    >mfw QB is FAR
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:51 No.46648689
    that guy doesn't care about Sayaka though.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:51 No.46648692
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    Man, these thread go fast.

    Tell me what to change.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:51 No.46648699
    I can buy that her knowledge is muddled, but she still does "care" about other people, as long as they affect Madoka.

    I just don't think she's very good at dealing with people, period. Then again I simply dont want this to repeat Higurashi and 1 reset is more than enough for me
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:51 No.46648701
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648720
    why does thishurt my eye so much argghhhh
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648724
    so did the Incubators find a way to harness and use too much of the universes energy before they realized that they are fucking over everything?

    and now are using little girls to fix the problem
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648730
    As entertaining as that would be, KyoAni would never let SHAFT get away with it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648731
    I had this image of a bunch of Kyubey wearing glass sphere helmets on their heads, piloting an old-timey UFO.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648733
    QB is the Prince of a certain planet.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648735
    It was confirmed a while back that Homura doesn't communicate well with others, by the way. Something like "she can't properly say the things she wants to say".
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:52 No.46648737
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    >Nagato Yuki

    I think you mean:

    >Kyubey is a troll cyborg thing made by PIC RELATED
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:53 No.46648740
    Nothing like aliens to ruin shit. God, remember the Gundam 00 and Gundam SEED hate when it was revealed that aliens existed in both series?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:53 No.46648744
    Kyoko is dead! FUCK NOW WHAT!?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:53 No.46648754
    You are now aware of the fact that Madoka as a witch is so impossibly strong, the only way to save the human race from extinction was for a little girl to form a contract and go back in time to stop her from becoming one.

    And yes, I'm probably slowpoke on that one. I've not participated in Madoka threads until now.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:53 No.46648764
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    >You are now imagining Kyoko kissing Sayka's forehead before she leaves to fight her witch, promising she'll save her
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:53 No.46648771
    ouch my eyes...
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648779
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    QB doesn't lie

    its aliens
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648782
    I think a lot of people forget Kyouko was burning up her magic energy trying to keep Sayaka's body warm which is when QB showed up and said it was pointless. And again I think she was alos took a lot more damage from those attacks then she let on. Finally what else did she have to live for she outright said she wanted to see a miracle to show that becoming a MS was worth it in the end.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648783
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    I hate youuu
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648790
    The First Ancestral Race (第(dai)一(ichi)始祖(shiso)民族(minzoku)、Dai'ichi Shiso Minzoku), usually abbreviated to "FAR", are the prototypical progenitors of the Evangelion mythos: an extraterrestrial humanoid species with hyper-advanced technological capabilities, responsible for the creation of the Seeds of Life, their Moons, the Spears of Longinus, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and, indirectly, the Angels and us.

    The First Ancestral Race were inhabitants of an unknown world within the Milky Way Galaxy well over 4.6 billions years ago, and are described as the first extraterrestrial intelligence. When it became clear that their world faced imminent destruction, they resigned their physical species to extinction, but took measures to ensure that similar beings would live on elsewhere. Seven progenitor beings called Seed of Life were created, each invested with the soul of a FAR individual and placed within a carrier vessel (Moon) along with a Spear of Longinus. The various demographics comprising the First Ancestral Race then united as one and boarded the seven carriers -- presumably meaning that they were reduced to souls and distributed across the seven Seed's Chambers of Guf to await rebirth on another world. This means that Adam's children, and the first Lilin, are reincarnated members of the First Ancestral Race.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648794
    Oh, god.

    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648800
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    >None of the girls are homeless.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:54 No.46648806
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    So basically Madoka and Level E are about the same thing all along.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:55 No.46648818
    The artifacts known as the Spears of Longinus, awesomely powerful A.T. Field-penetrating tools, were placed within each Moon to control the Seed in case of any exigencies, such as if two Seeds came to occupy the same planet.

    The First Ancestral Race are the authors of the "Dead Sea Scrolls": the information was included in White or Black Moon transport vessels as a safeguard, along the Spears of Longinus. What became known as the "Dead Sea Scrolls" was essentially a manual the First Ancestral Race sent along with each Seed of Life, detailing how Seeds of Life and the Spears of Longinus work, as well as predictions about the future in the event that a Seed is awakened. Although the scrolls were presumably created in case of an Adam-type seed was awakened and a Spear of Longinus was not available (or other unplanned circumstances arose), the Seele organization, eventual possessor of the scrolls, used the knowledge contained within to further its own agenda.

    Since the First Ancestral Race are the ultimate creators of humans as well as Angels, they could be considered "gods" from the perspective of both,
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:55 No.46648826
    Someone draw this shit, it is just so :3
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:55 No.46648829
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    I hate the aliens reveal, but if they show that in the next episode, all will be forgiven.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:56 No.46648843
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    >"Oh god no, please don't try to bring entropy into this. I have a chemistry background, I know what entropy actually is, I've yet to see any fictional work get it right, please don't do this I like this show"

    I have a sinking feeling this anime is going to turn to shit now ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:56 No.46648847
    bump limit

    new thread
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:56 No.46648858
    So now we have two more episodes of LOL Drama followed by a repeat of the beginning of episode 1. And Kyubey isn't even a villain they will fight with (since the generic and personality-less Walpurgis Night is the final villain, it seems)

    They should have saved the Sayaka and Kyoko deaths for the final episodes.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:57 No.46648876
    I'm very concerned about your bigoted perceptions of aliens, /a/.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:58 No.46648902
    Er, no. I didn't watch Gundam SEED when it was airing, but wasn't that just a dead space whale?

    In 00, it wasn't so much that there were aliens it's just that their method of attack made for boring beamspam battles instead of delicious Exia-style close combat
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:59 No.46648932
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    >hey guys I found a great new energy source and there seems to be a fuckton of it
    >I don't think we should use it
    >what could go wrong?

    >don't worry! I had a back up plan just incase
    >what is it
    >Little girls.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)22:59 No.46648952
    A meta perspective.

    Think of this entire plot twisting and speculah as a metagame between us and Urobuchi over the plot of the Madoka tv show.

    If you think of this as a metagame, then Urobuchi is playing defensive but risks messing up the plot by having to twist it repeatedly, just so he can mess us up.

    We might see a trainwreck finale of 3 episodes because our speculations are cornering him and he's making a frantic attempt at dodging.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:00 No.46648992
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    >Why don't anybody care about her?

    I am, bro. But too many underageb& that think moe Homerun & LOLplot > intriguing character-driven narrative saw her as the main culprit.

    For christ's sake, you actually have people blaming her for Kyouko's death.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:02 No.46649048
    LOL. Evangelion ripped this off of Star Trek the Next generation, didn't they? Because that had an awfully similar set-up with humans being seeded by aliens and whatnot.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:03 No.46649087
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    >he thinks Urobuchi would change the plot for ungrateful assholes like us

    I just wanted to thank that anon from the last thread who managed to transcribe Sayaka's battle theme or whatever the fuck it is

    chiptuned it, added a few parts, not too horrible
    >feeling good
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:03 No.46649092
    So like is this story Sci-fi yet?

    Or is it still fantasy?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:05 No.46649138
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    >Sayaka ruins everything.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:06 No.46649168

    only in my subconsious

    but i was thinking in that show thought
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:07 No.46649229
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    >You are now imagining Kyoko kissing Sayka's forehead before she leaves to fight her witch, promising she'll save her
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:08 No.46649242
    I really don't see what the big deal about all this "science" is. The only science that Kyuubey said was "Hey, you know the laws of thermodynamics? They're kind of a bummer so we wanted to find a form of energy that violated them." That's not really an explanation, that's just sort of acknowledging that science does in fact exist.

    And as for him being an alien: Even fucking CTHUHLU was an alien. All being an alien means is that you're... from somewhere else.
    >> Orihara !IZAYAXs/Z2 03/03/11(Thu)23:08 No.46649255
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    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:14 No.46649468
    thank god there's only three episodes left
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:15 No.46649490
    Walpurgis Night is Homura's witch form.

    You heard it here first.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:15 No.46649510
    >busted hand
    >magic and science
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:16 No.46649528
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    Yeah Homura has only value as doujin and meme material, Madoka is Madoka, every character that I cared died, now we're stuck with the most bland and boring characters of the show.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:23 No.46649734
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    I don't fucking get it when nanoha mixed magic and tech together no one said shit about it as a matter of fact the sucked that shows dick up until StrikerS so what the fuck makes this any different.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:24 No.46649768
    What if QBs race is like then anti spirals and QB is just a proxy to his species which is in statis so they don't use up energy

    Magic as qb describes it Is a way to generate energy without loss
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:25 No.46649808
    You people would hate Homura if she wasnt generic Kuudere #206.
    She is the biggest bitch on this show.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:27 No.46649879
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    breaking a illusions!
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:28 No.46649919
    I liked this one better >>46646311
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:29 No.46649957
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    Watch the Kyubey be something like the Antispirals, a people that have already sacrificed their entire world for the sake of the universe, placing themselves in a state of eternal hibernation to conserve energy in the face of entropy.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:34 No.46650130
    Wow, I'm glad someone on this board can understand things, of course that's my fault for going on /a/ in the first place
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:34 No.46650131
    I don't know what you fags are complaining about. I expected QB to be an alien or from some other dimension, or something like that pretty much from the beginning. It would have been nice to have a little more build up for it, but there's not enough time, the season is almost over.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:37 No.46650246

    She's the best character on the show and you know it.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:47 No.46650630
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    Kyuubey is pretty much saying that his people are using the girls as a power source for their technology so that they slow down the rapid disbursement of energy that they are causing through their high use of energy which was going to destroy the universe. They are saving the universe from themselves by using human girls as a power source so it is entirely for selfish reasons when they could try to lower their power usage instead.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:53 No.46650853
    >Most viewers probably have never even heard of entropy until now.
    High school dropouts?
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:56 No.46650938
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    Someone explain entropy
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:57 No.46650988
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    you Sayaka could have saved herself so much trouble if she had just done this from the start.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:58 No.46651007
    They're engineers; that's how we solve problems. Why fix the root cause of trouble when you can build your way out of it with ever increasing complexity and fuck.
    >> Anonymous 03/03/11(Thu)23:59 No.46651058

    Entropy is a thermodynamic property that is a measure of the energy not available for useful work in a thermodynamic process, such as in energy conversion devices, engines, or machines. Such devices can only be driven by convertible energy, and have a theoretical maximum efficiency when converting energy to work. During this work entropy accumulates in the system, but has to be removed by dissipation in the form of waste heat.

    The concept of entropy is defined by the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of a closed system always increases or remains constant. Thus, entropy is also a measure of the tendency of a process, such as a chemical reaction, to be entropically favored, or to proceed in a particular direction. It determines that thermal energy always flows spontaneously from regions of higher temperature to regions of lower temperature, in the form of heat. These processes reduce the state of order of the initial systems, and therefore entropy is an expression of disorder or randomness. This model is the basis of the microscopic interpretation of entropy in statistical mechanics describing the probability of the constituents of a thermodynamic system to be occupying accessible quantum mechanical states, a model directly related to the information entropy.

    Thermodynamic entropy has the dimension of energy divided by temperature, and a unit of joules per kelvin (J/K) in the International System of Units.

    The term entropy was coined in 1865 by Rudolf Clausius

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