>>29095250

ITT: we all act mature and levelheaded

If older ponies like Mrs. Cake and Mayor Mare don't go through menopause, does that mean they're just as horny as the younger ponies when they go into heat?

>>29095250
Topic for world building and speculation? I do enjoy it, but I need a starting point to really get going. Any ideas?
I've actually been thinking about religion in Equestria. It could potentially be a lot more complex than "here are two gods, we worship them". Any thoughts?

>>29095323

sounds like a plan

Why has Twidash suddenly gotten ridiculously popular? I mean, I understand the theory of why people think it's a good pairing, and I somewhat agree with it, but it just seems like suddenly there's some discussion of it in most threads where it barely got a mention before.

>>29095328
That's why they've got an employee, so they can turn over control of the store to her and just focus on each other during it.

>>29095343

people change.

shipping isn't based on a whole lot anyway, is it?

i kinda figured the flavor of the month would chage pretty consistently

>>29095343
Only because it hasn't been done to death yet.

>>29095250
How about some super sad?
http://www.ponychan.net/chan/pony/res/35761535.html#35777763

The rest of the thread reads like a /co/ General, all about tragic alt endings to episodes.

>>29095328

even more so. im eagerly awaiting the spin-off series. my horny mare.

You know who I hate the most?
Trixie and Gilda fans. Not all of them but the ones who fell bad for them?
Why?
I mean you treat them like what happen in the episode was the most important thing that happen in their lifetime.
Take Gilda for exemple.
She's no longer friends with RD so that means she hates her and wants revenger or she just throws her life away and start drinking and fell like shit.
It's like she has no one else on this world besides Dash. No other friends or other family members. Just Dash.
We know that Dash lives in Ponyville yet no one knew about Gilda.
Not her friends not the rest of the town.
And from what we could understand from the episode Griffons are a memorable sight.
That means she didn't visited RD for some time.
Of course she wanted to spend time with her. Also this kinda proves that they were just friends or she would visit more frequently.
Losing friends happens all the time. But no for Gilda is the fucking end of the world. I'm more then sure that they had other friends in the camp.

>>29095199
I disagree, in that the specifics are presented multiple times in the series and they aren't always the same. Some of it is propaganda, some of it is espionage.

The specific chain of events has never been canonically clarified though, no. That's a staple of the series.

ANYWAYS, that was a fun discussion. Ponies you say?

Drew this this morning, gonna repost for afternoon crowd critique

>>29095330
Hmm. There were some religious elements in the scene where filly twilight watches Celestia raise the sun.

How about an official clergy?

>>29095343
Once people has had their fill of something, they go looking for something new.

>>29095330
Celestia and Luna (and their unknown brother/sister) had to come from somewhere.

Also, demigod theories?

>>29095372
>linking to ponychan

stop that

I enjoy these subjects but you realize that most of the modern /co/ posters will not tolerate discussion shifting away from their favored perversions, especially in a fresh general

>>29095378
The same can be said for Trixie! Oh dear she fucked up a show and lost her cart.
That can only mean that she is homeless, has no other friends, no family and could only live in the forest till she either starts a new life as someone completely different or gets found by Twilight and fucks her.
Or the second idea that she trains, becomes a supermage and then rapes Twilight or the other mane cast.
She probably doesn't even give a fuck about Twilight. She may be a stuck-up bitch but she can't really think she is the best in the whole fucking world.
And even if that's true she was just fucked up by two morons that brought a ursa minor from the fucking forest.
She could have just simply go to a different town and put up a new show.
She couldn't have been caring all her life savings with her. And even so she showed some actual skill in magic. She can do other things or do other shows.
But no poor Gilda and Trixie, their lives got fucked up because apparently no one is allowed to have any other friends or family if they aren't part of the mane cast. Because you know, the whole fucking universe revolves around them.

>>29095372

come on dude, don't repost that.

even if your intentions are pure you're going to generate a lot of hate just because you're comparing us to ponychan.

>>29095330
They've got a God-Queen. Er, Princess. They don't need a complicated religious structure, because it's an inextricable part of their government.

Anyone got any FlutterPie?

>>29095405
Fuck anyone who doesn't want to talk about the show.

>>29095343
Other ships being discussed to the point of boredom and so some of the fringe ones are gaining steam.

Amusingly, I recently watched the first episode again (sober) and with my "Dash is gay" headcanon and I thought Dash was... kinda flirting with her when they first met. Or at least trying to impress her. She was certainly acting differently around her then she did for the rest of the show.

>>29095394
Maybe the zebras worship some voodoo spirits or something.

>>29095378

can it be?

>>29095378
Dude, it's implied they used to be best friends. I'm not a Gilda fan, but hanging out with a person you used to be best friends with, and realizing you have nothing in common with them anymore is a really sad feeling.

>>29095330
Uh... shit. Trying to figure out one that hasn't already been talked about in length.

Aside from books and magic shows, what do you suppose are the mane sources of entertainment for ponies in various areas of Equestria? What about other races?

Not the best topic, but I haven't seen it before.

Or we could talk about clergy

>>29095328

Mr and Mrs Cake seems to be on their mid 30's as much. That's not old, dude.
Mayor Mare seems to be older then them, I'll give you that.

>MFW season 2 dedicates an episode to the Cakes and reveals they can't have children on their own, hence why they hired Pinkie Pie to have a surrogate daugther to replace the one they will never have.

>>29095372
I am asking you nicely, please stop advertising Ponychan and/or ponychan threads here. Same goes for FiMchan, although that website offers services of significance to /co/.

>>29095446
There's a story about that.

>>29095454
Is posting links in a reply advertising now? Really?

>>29095378
>>29095406

happy people are boring. sadness sells

>>29095454
y u no like fimchan?

http://fim.413chan.net/art/src/131437375945-gotmilk.png

>>29095394

Celestia and Luna are only sisters in the metaphorical sense. The true secret of the "alicorn" ponies is that they don't just embody the traits of all three pony types, they are a literal combination of all three. They are chimeric being; 3 ponies, one of each type, ritually sacrificed and reborn into a single new being. Its why there are only two of them: they are not natural beings at all. A better question is what ancient desperation drove pony kind to create such beings.

>>29095493

you don't have to like it

>>29095501

is it wrong that the hippofaces are my main problem with that picture?

>>29095446
I kinda want to see some more Mrs. Cake and BonBon interactions, even if it isn't canon.

>>29095330
IF there is religion in Equestria, it might be quite a lot different from what we have in our world. Mainly due to the fact that they have solid "proof" of their divinity rather than hoping for good stuff in the afterlife and whatnot.

A clergy or similar might have much more of a administrative role than one focused on maintaining faith.

All provided that Celestia and Luna are actual deities or demigods, not just epic trolls.

>>29095442
I know man but everyone treats it like she is the only fucking friend she has ever had.
And like I said even if they were best friends it is also implied that hey haven't seen each other since RD moved in Ponyville.
I get it. But still it isn't the end of the world for Gilda.

>>29095454

Yeah, it's kinda annoying to see Ponychaner coming here to supplicate for some attention.
Honestly, the only reason for why I bother visiting that place is for the project collaboration board, where awesome stuff like the fangames and Desktop Ponies can be found.
The rest is just meh.

>>29095387
Yeah, that's the sort of thing I was thinking of. Organised holidays, institutionalised worship, all that, there's got to be some specificity to it. In terms of an official clergy, in the things I'm writing at the moment (if you're not interested, I apologise, just skip this post and ignore me) I'm positing the idea of twin clans, of a sort, one dedicated to the support of one goddess and the other, her counterpart.
In the show, and in this setup, I can imagine there being a dedicated order of worshippers - pastoral types, though not with any of the same rules we'd have over here. One anon in MLPG is writing this fic that I'm reading, with a group known as the "Fraternity of the Sun" if I recall correctly, and it's a monastic order devoted to the ideals of Celestia as put forward in Twilight Sparkle's writings (her friendship reports) - it's really neat, and very, very interesting so far.
The clan structure I mentioned I was writing isn't so fleshed-out yet, but it revolves around a very druidic style of worship, you know? Small groups dedicated to upholding the ideals and whatnot.
A clergy seems a bit too disciplinarian, authoritarian for Celestia, who is seen as wise and very much a political mastermind. I don't think she'd want an overt group of worshippers, because that'd interfere with the state - separation of the two is best for her to effectively run the country, you know?

>>29095394
I like the fanon that sees them as created by a predecessor race of humans, us, and left to manage the new world after our extinction as biological constructs. Immortal and godlike, you know?

>>29095330

In a lot of fantasy settings where there is one generally-accepted god, the protagonist often runs into a pagan worshiper who reveals to them a myriad of "lesser" gods that they were not even aware existed. These gods are usually more "personal" than the overarching deity, and will even communicate directly with the protagonist, leading to their conversion to the "old ways" that end up guiding them on their quest.

I can see something similar going on. Maybe Zecora's culture worships different deities, but that doesn't necessarily make them less real. Maybe they simply have a different function than the pony gods.

>>29095532
I have the same problem.. hell, usually I'm okay with CLs dog-whateverfaces, but this one is way worse than his average drawing.

>>29095542
There is no religion in Equestria. It's a utopia.

>>29095493
Yes, yes it is. Does this really come as a surprise to you? Is your brain really that hooked to modern day descriptions of a word that you can't unhook its definition from something negative? You are promoting a thread and promotion is advertisement.

>>29095446

> there is sadness in mrs cake's life

there is only joy and fetish wear

>>29095532
I like how it looks in this picture, actually. It gives Pinkie a lot of character. Like a good caricature is supposed to do.

>>29095406
Thank you. She's a performer. The Great and Powerful Trixie act is exactly that: an act. She acts like she's the hottest shit ever because that's what sells tickets. People don't line up just to watch sleight of hand performed by someone skilled at showcraft, they line up to watch THE GREAT AND POWERFUL TRIXIE tell the amazing story of how she defeated the terrifying whadayacallit. Give 'em the ol' razzle-dazzle.

Every time I see her referring to herself in third-person while she's off the clock, or really thinking she's the most powerful unicorn in all of Equestria, I want to headbutt something.

>>29095602

well i disagree. i think it looks terrible.

on model or nothing.

well this thread wasted no time becoming horrible

how about we post the cutest MLP pic we can find?

>>29095622
>on model or nothing

how boring

>>29095561

I can actually see that kind of idea working very well in an episode. One clan worships Celestia, the other worships Luna, and they both almost get into a war about it. At the end Celestia and Luna come down and explain how they are both equally important and one would not exist without the other, and the clans embrace each other.

What do you think? Too similar to Over a Barrel? Too similar to the themes of the first episode? Really I just wanna see druidic pony pagans.

>>29095482

I mean a canon episode, not a fan made story.
Hell, an episode about the Cake's younger days would be awesome, especially if beanpole Mr. Cake is revealed to have been a fucking badass during his youth, and then a brief scene during another episode reveals he's still a badass whenever he needs to be.

>>29095651

we're not that shitty yet.

>>29095621
>Every time I see her referring to herself in third-person while she's off the clock, or really thinking she's the most powerful unicorn in all of Equestria, I want to headbutt something.

She does that in the show, dude.

>>29095651
Beats last thread's circle jerk by a mile.

>>29095677

can we do it anyways?

>>29095651

We're still having good discussion. Feel free to suck my dick.

>>29095444
I think there's so much I'm going to be saying elsewhere about religion, haha, I'd rather consider the entertainment!
Music seems like a great source for ponies, obviously. The theatre, maybe they have things we haven't seen yet, like magical televisions...I assume their main sort of entertainment is probably storytelling. I've actually been considering something along these lines, how professional storytellers, maybe even ones who incorporate magic and illusion into their stories (e.g. Trixie except actually good and useful) would probably be highly valued among ponies. Magic could potentially provide sensory stimulation our modern cinema doesn't - smells, touch, things like that. Like the 4D experience at Thorpe Park if anyone in the UK has ever been there.

>>29095527
Chimeric gods? I like it. A sacrificial ritual that creates nigh-immortal, massively powerful beings...what could possibly put ponies in such a situation? A war against another race? I believe I was reading a fic about exactly that a while back, though I dropped it around chapter 18, when it started really being bad.

>>29095678
Shhh... let him have his fantasies...

>>29095706

I won't stop you

http://www.livestream.com/obsidiansolitaire
Attempting to sketch as many requests as I can. Don't have a lot of time today though.

Seeing as Celestia and Luna inhabit the living world, what is the pony view on death and the afterlife?

Also, what about potential other demigods?

Do Earth ponies worship something different than pegasi and unicorn? Earth ponies would probably lean more towards an agricultural, earth-mother type figure if they had one.

Meanwhile, Homestuck is still on hiatus.

>>29095378
>>29095406
While I agree on a lot of points, I do think it's fair to say that Rainbow Dash was important to Gilda. She only ever seems to do anything for herself/her own amusement and she wasn't getting anything else out of it other than companionship.

And just going from the "usual" bully personality, they DON'T usually have a lot of friends and she DOES get upset when Dash tells to her to go find some new friends.

Still, I don't think it would necessarily reduce her to a sobbing wreck (despite what some of my fanfictions would suggest). I think it's most likely that she would just now have an even bigger chip on her shoulder.

And as for Trixie, yeah, she prolly DID just move on and start her show over again. But I wouldn't put it past her to be a little pissed about being shown up in Ponyville.

FlutterPie

Fluttershy is attracted to Pinkie's outgoing nature and wants to be able to make friends as easily. Pinkie needs someone to rein her in when she gets out of control.

>>29095651

Challenge Accepted

>>29095708
No

>>29095662

there can be a love triangle.

>>29095621
Seriously.

She is pure performer and her behavior is actually fairly mild compared to what real world magicians sometimes pull to get audiences.

Furthermore, despite knowing herself as an entertainer, she still attempts to stand up to the Ursa. It doesn't do any good, but she at least gave it a shot.

>>29095651
cute thread?
cute thread

>>29095771
cute thread.

>>29095561
No, man, she's a God-Princess. There's no need for churches or priests to commune with her, you can just go to Canterlot and be all like "sup".

You know who the closest thing to a priest in Ponyville would be? The Mayor. Because she's the middle-mare between the citizens of Ponyville and their Goddess. The government is the closest thing they'd have to a religious infrastructure.

>>29095771
>>29095786

cute ponies are so lame.

>>29095729
>I've actually been considering something along these lines, how professional storytellers, maybe even ones who incorporate magic and illusion into their stories (e.g. Trixie except actually good and useful) would probably be highly valued among ponies. Magic could potentially provide sensory stimulation our modern cinema doesn't - smells, touch, things like that. Like the 4D experience at Thorpe Park if anyone in the UK has ever been there.

This is highly imaginative and I support this line of thinking.

>>29095786
hnnnnngg

>>29095736
>>29095736
>>29095736
>>29095736
>>29095736
>>29095736
>>29095736

Get in here, y'all.

Fashion horn pony is best pony.

>>29095737

ponies believe in reincarnation

Celestia has obtained enlightenment and broken free of the cycle. Luna is still in the process of obtaining enlightenment

>>29095797
>Smoking
>Fastest flyer in all of Equestria
Fuck that shit.

>>29095656
I'm glad it isn't so bad! A secret battle between two essential, hidden aspects of Equestrian society, powerful enough to tear the world apart beneath their feet? I just can't get around it, you know, even if it is a bit clichéd, maybe a little trite. Pulled off properly, like that, in the show, it could be great, but imagine a sort of Revan-like situation, if you'll excuse the comparison, where the two gods pit the two clans against each other in order to ensure they're both competitive and ready in the event of some greater threat?
It's a bit similar too Over A Barrel, yeah, but done properly, as you've put it, there's really very little comparison. It could work really well in the hands of the right guys, and Studio B are the right guys, I say, though they'll never do anything remotely like it. I admit it would be fucking cool to see some pony druids.

>>29095737

Actually considering the whole sun and moon motiff, I personally think the ponies are sun (and moon) worshippers. The sun governs the equine fertility cycle, so you have a fertility deity in there that makes sense, and a bunch of options with the moon. It's this religion that gives the princesses so much undisputed power- they can move the sun and moon and therefore demonstrate a clear, undeniable connection to the pony divine, even if the princesses and the ponies do not consider the princesses themselves to be gods.

>>29095768
She tries to fight the ursa because, and only because, her audience is watching her and expects her to do it.

>>29095819
cute thread

postan cp in a cp thread

also socks!

>>29095797
cute ponies is great!!!

>>29095740
>And as for Trixie, yeah, she prolly DID just move on and start her show over again. But I wouldn't put it past her to be a little pissed about being shown up in Ponyville.

I don't know.

Her cart was smashed and everything she had with it. Given that it was probably also her home, she really doesn't have much to fall back on. Despite her astounding sense of superiority, she likely comes from poverty...hence why she works as a traveling entertainer rather than 5 star act in a major city.

>>29095678
You mean right after the show, while she's got a couple of starry-eyed fanboys right outside her door? Yeah, she'd stay in character while inside Ponyville, but if (to take an example I've seen in a surprising amount of fics) Twilight ran into her in Canterlot, she wouldn't be all "The Great And Powerful Trixie condescends to greet you, inferior bitch whatever-your-name-is".

>>29095862
Postan cute gummy in a cute gummy thread.
Also gummy

It's cool, I saw Rainbow Dash doing it one time.

>>29095838

Really, you don't think they'd do it? Maybe not with overt religious overtones, but I don't think that fans of one princess vs fans of the other would be an inappropriate theme in the show. It would make sense, in fact.

>>29095869

You're such a dweeb, fluttershy

>>29095880

Not only was it smashed, she left its ruins behind. She fled the town with literally nothing.

>>29095844
Doubtful, given how fast she fled afterward.

>>29095793
Yeah, but the churches don't have to exist for purely reasons of communion. To have another channel of accession to the Princess, one that exists solely for altruistic reasons (as many monastic orders are wont to do) could be remarkably useful. Celestia might simply like being worshipped as divine, and clerics may be able to operate on a different level to those of political officials. Clerics serve their god - if their god is actively there and ordering them around, they're a lot more useful than a political official who is meant to be a line between the people and the incumbent, as well as the servant of the people, not the incumbent. It's purely hypothetical, anyway, but point is, there are a lot of other benefits to a church for a religious icon.

Fuck the police, ponies sleeping.

>>29095907
WAT

>>29095844
That is a valid interpretation.
It also says a lot about her dedication to her "performance".

What did the say in Breakfast at Tiffany's? Something like, "She's a phony, but she's a genuine one."

guys no you have to discuss shit while you post cute ponies

otherwise you're just shitposting

Whoa when did we get a new thread?

>>29095880
Her show was mostly based on her own abilities, there was very little prop-based stuff. It'll be a long road back to where she was, but she can still perform.

>>29095801
I'm glad you like it, haha! I'm trying to work it into a fic I've got on the backburner. I hate to be egotistical, but keep your eyes open if you're interested!

>>29095941
Nah, imagedumping is good too.

>>29095880
Dude, Shakespeare was a traveling performer. In pre-industrial societies, entertainers had to travel because there wouldn't be enough people living in the same place to make a living off all year round with the same act.

And yeah, the Ursa smashing her cart would probably be a setback, but it's just a prop. A convenience. If need be she could do her act on a two-by-four plonked on top of a couple of barrels and sleep under a tree.

brushie brushie brushie

Do you have the pony curse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFna6R-rAo

>>29095889
Stephen Colbert, Larry the Cable Guy, and professional wrestlers are extreme examples of this. They adhere so strongly to their character that many people aren't even aware it's just an act.

>>29095830 ponies believe in reincarnation

Fluttershy dies and gets reincarnated as a tree, she's happy as fuck.
Then she is chopped down and burned on a bonfire, after that she's reincarnated as a pegasus again, with the biggest WTF expression on her face.

>>29095897
Maybe, but I just can't see them bringing religious conflict into a show for kids, you know? It'd be complex and inflammatory, and too controversial to bother with. If they handled it in a way where the conflict seemed to be completely unrelated to religion, then sure, but with divine princesses, that might be a bit of a challenge, you know?

>>29095983

>colgate appears

time to brush

>>29096005
inb4 someone posts the amigara fault fluttershy image

Oh fuck, just found out that the BroNYcon thing the NY meetup group puts on every few months is not only going to have the director of the show there this September, but they will also be DEBUTING s2e2 there.

Why the fuck can't Portland get anything awesome like that. We are the second largest group...

>>29095973

but imagedumps happen all the time and contribute nothing

>>29095880
>>29095912
Given how Trixie behaves, I doubt this was the FIRST town she had been run out of.

I give her more credit than that. She'll be fine. I like to imagine she actually snuck back into town and stole back her smashed cart to repair it.

Yeah, it might have been tough, but I think of her as a survivor. You don't get by on JUST your talent without learning to make do in tough times.

>>29095931
Man, I thought Rarity and Fluttershy were pillows at first glance.

>best period in threads in months
>actually discussing the show
>i'm bogged down by start-of-semester work.

fuck
oh well

FRIEND OFF TIME

WHAT THE FUCK’S A FRIEND OFF ANYWAY?
a long-term event for writers and artists to produce content.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO IN THIS SHIT?
Artists are tasked with drawing or otherwise depicting a scene from any fanfiction they choose. it could be their favorite, it could be their most hated. it could be a tea party scene or a climactic battle, whatever the artist chooses.

Meanwhile, writers are tasked with taking some piece of artwork and writing a story about it. They can write a tiny poignant piece, or expand it into a massive adventure which used the artwork as thematic inspiration, whatever they want.

DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 10TH
more details on submission (including the submission email address) are in the google doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/101BkCaqULnA3rP_X7DSg29_hu7U3UWD1lu3Xj1Xl88M/edit?hl=en_US

>>29095948
>>29095978
Except her unicorn magic revolves entirely around parlor tricks.

Who gives a shit that you can spin a rope around or make a card appear in a world where your neighbor harvests his garden with telekinesis?

She has to have the props, and the flash. She has to have the fireworks and the stage. Otherwise she's just another magic-wielding unicorn...except her talents don't even revolve around anything useful to society.

And regardless, being without a home kinda sucks either way.

>>29096053
they contribute to my supply of cute ponies

>>29095941
Ok.
Did you know that Australia is the only continent w/o an active volcano! Which is fair, because everything else in autralia kills you.
.
did you know that male platupi have venomous claws on their back feet! woah! DISCUSS BRAH

>>29096017

Indeed, but the theme of the show IS handling social strife.

Perhaps you are right. It would be difficult, but now it's an idea that's burned into my brain and I don't think I'll be shaking it loose anytime soon.

>>29096066

no friend-off will ever top the valentine's day ship-off

>>29096080
Fuck Australia. Everything is giant and poisonous.

>>29096092
oh god
something's really off with that trixie
i think it's the nose
it's unnerving

>>29096101
But at least it's not covered in lava.

>>29096101

If there is one sentence that could describe my life it's this one.

My life goal isn't to become rich, famous, or loved.

My life goal is to stay the fuck away from Australia.

>>29096114

looks fine to me.

also >great and tasty

genius

Y'all be tripping. They ain't going to touch religion with a twenty-foot pole on the show. They'd have to be completely fucking nuts to even consider it.

>>29096101
The only thing that isn't poisonous or extreamly deadly in australia is the ground

and even that's a maybe

>>29096072
Ever LOOKED at the shit on TV?
People CRAVE entertainment.
If she keeps the little bastards laughing and clapping their hooves or at least not thinking about their shit day, she'll make a mint.

>>29096114

No nostrils.

>>29096072
They were just part of her act, she could go a bit smaller, just focus on the storytelling, she'd be fine. Down, but not out.

>>29096087
That WAS a lot of fun.

We'll see how this one goes. After the blog exploded the friend offs got too big to be any real good.

With the smaller size of this one, it should be pretty good.

>>29096060

Personally I like to think of her as a daughter of some of the snobs in canterlot who wanted to get out and see the world (thus explaining her natural asshole demeanor and magical ability) and when her cart was smashed, she literally ran home to mommy.

She also therefore has a pretty secure source of emergency funding and will be back.

>>29096101
Much more importantly, they have the greatest concentration of sharks of anywhere on the planet. They also have saltwater crocodiles.

I am absolutely terrified of sharks. Like to a severely unreasonable level.

>>29096078

well that changes everything then

>>29096072

man, now I'm starting to feel bad for her too

>>29096060
Maybe Ponyville was her first attempt at making a name for herself? Her debut?

And she blew it.

Just thinking aloud (in text?) obviously, we have no evidence one way or another.

>>29096085
True. I do agree, that it's an absolutely smashing idea if they can pull it off correctly, because social strife over faith, dogma, religion, even simple differences in belief and opinion, are so prevalent in the modern world. It's certainly a case of something that would be entirely relevant, and it fits my personal opinion that children need to be taught important life lessons early, and acceptance is one. It might even make it to air in Europe if they handled it with subtlety. Problem is all this I hear about Americans. I don't know, man, your alarmist, reactionary bible thumping types ruin it for everybody, haha, if you'll excuse my saying so!

>>29095989 Stephen Colbert

Trixie appears again during season 2, with a stallion named "Stephen Coltbert" as her stage performer partner.

She's still a bitch, but later Twilight and company discover she is now limiting it to her stage character persona only, and she's quite friendly and nice when she's not performing.

>>29096101
>>29096133
I'm Australian, and it's all exaggerations. As long as you remember to make sure there's no hole in your house larger than a millimeter wide, never open a window at night, never walk under a tree without checking it carefully, and never go near the ocean, ever, you're perfectly safe.

>>29096131
I live in the northeastern US, no volcanoes or poisonous creatures. AND we have mild weather.

>>29096178

You are extremely excused for saying so, and I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said.

>>29096167
>>29096174
Hmmm.
These are both interesting interpretations to the character that I hadn't considered.

>>29095925
>watch cartoon
>fall in love with cartoon character
>alter the actual character to something you like better

Stay classy, Sethisto/Rockman/Wolf Nanaki

>>29096194

southwestern US here

all of the above, plus no humidity or swarms of insects

>>29096169
AND BOX JELLYFISH.

>>29096178
holy shit, commas, i am so sorry, abuse like that is fucking horrific
have an adorable pony as an apology

>>29096101
There are exactly three animals in Austraila that cannot poison you, eat you, or turn you inside out with its claws:

1. Sheep
2. Rabbits
3. ....I can't think of a third one.

actually thats apoint

is there a Australia in Equestira/ the MLP world?

Celestia banishes people there occasionally. Gotta keep your banishment options varied, y'know - you can't just send any old mare to the moon. That wouldn't be fitting of certain classes of pony.

>>29096220
Living in Illinois. Weather shifts violently like a moodswings of a bi-polar woman in menopause.... while on her period.... in a tiger pit.

>>29096250
My little wallabies

>>29096250
Equestira is a country not a planet

I GOTTA GET MY PONY ON TODAY IN CASE THE HURRICANE GETS MY ELECTRICITY TOMMOROW

>>29096286
Huri-pain

>>29096285
What if

dude

dude what if its like

like

both

>>29096268
We had an epic lightning storm here in Oregon last night. I only got a few hours of sleep because my dog went bonkers. I had a spectacular view out my bedroom window.

>>29096242
Australians.

>>29096250
Equestrias prisons are overflowing. Where else to dump the villainous colts than a wasteland full of giant poisonous creatures?

>>29096250
The everfree

>>29096250 is there a Australia in Equestira/ the MLP world?

Everfree Forest is Equestria's version of Australia.
Everything there is big, poisonous, carnivorous and something bad always happens whenever Twilight and friends venture onto it.

I wonder if Celestia can strip the innate magic from a lesser pony? I would think it would be quite the punishment if you could say, rob a pegasus of its ability to fly and cloudwalk

Well, it's almost midnight here. Time to post some NMM.

>>29096225
Box jellyfish are small time. The Irukandji is the worst juju. It's a centimeter wide, like twenty meters long, and it's venom causes pain so agonizing that sufferers have been known to be screaming in agony despite being pumped full of morphine.

Oh, and another thing:
>One unusual symptom associated with Irukandji syndrome is a feeling of "impending doom". Patients have been reported as being so certain that they are going to die that they beg their doctors to kill them to get it over with. Symptoms generally abate in 4 to 30 hours, but may take up to two weeks to resolve completely.

>>29096217
But my ideas for the characters are clearly so much better than the ones presented in the show!

>>29096305
Like terry pratchett

>>29096321
>Scootaloo

>>29096308
>implying aboriginies and drunk austrailian rednecks don't want to knife the living shit out of you

>>29096307
I heard about it when I woke up.

Made me sad that I slept through it. Fucking love me a thunder storm.

>>29096322
Germany?

>>29096305

>>29096341
thats not a noyf this is a noyf

>>29096326
FUCK. AUSTRALIA.

>>29096326

mother of fuck

>>29096321

Just break its wings

>>29096321
Assuming she follows the rules laid out for everybody else, I doubt it. Raising the sun is her special talent, she's probably not very powerful at all at other things.

Of course, "not very powerful" is relative to at least a thousand years of practice, so she's still going to be incredibly powerful, but not to that sort of degree

>>29096060
I kinda doubt that.
All in all she was a good performer. All of ponyville was amazed by her except for the mane cast who went full bitch mode.
Hell the only reason that RD hated the show is that it wasn't about her.
Everyone was to busy being amazed by Trixie to care.
Maybe she was outperformed in another town but still...

>>29096329

>>29096339
But the Discworld is a bunch of different nations

>>29096363

That wouldn't stop cloud walking

>>29096364
Celestia can fuck everything up without trying until proven otherwise.

>>29096321
She probably could, but would she?

>>29096250

>Pegasi

Bottom of the ocean

>Unicorns

Middle of the largest desert, good luck doing anything with individual grains of sand and your weak unicorn bodies

>Earth Ponies

Pony Australia, where the earth itself is against you

>>29096364
I subscribe to this theory.
She powerful, she's their ruler, and she takes care of the sun.
But she is not their god.

>>29096326

mother of fuck

>>29096364

Its clear she does not operate by the same rules that govern the lesser ponies though. The fact she has wings and a horn are all the demonstration of that we need. She was also able to stop Twilight's run away magic fit just by touching her. Its clear her magic is extremely powerful and extends well past the whole sun thing.

>>29096364
I agree with this.

I don't think she's nearly as powerful as some fanon makes her out to be..I think she has a specific set of talents that gives her a lot of specific power...and then very focused general magics that make other ponies pale in comparison, but aren't really god like.

In fact I take it so far as saying that banishing NMM to the moon was a one time thing, or something she only did with the aid of a once-in-a-thousand-year celestial event...hence why NMM was banished for exactly 1000 years.

>>29096367
I'm just saying that if she's been doing this for awhile, then she's had a LOT of hecklers.
And if that's her usual way of dealing with hecklers, then surely she's pissed off the wrong folks before and been run out of town.

>>29096382
Until it's at least implied that she doesn't follow the same magical rules as everybody else, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. She's never done anything but raise the sun, and her cutie mark is a giant sun.

>>29096286

youd better print some pony in case you have no power for a few days.

>>29096326
Also, the stonefish.

Austrailia is also home to ALL 10 OF THE WORLD'S MOST POISONOUS SNAKES.

They have the highest concentration of sharks in the world, specifically Great Whites, Bull Sharks, Tiger Sharks, and Whitetip Sharks, which are the four most dangerous shark types on earth.

They are home to the largest crocodile species on earth.

They have box jellyfish, blue ringed octopus, lionfish, and the aforementioned stonefish.

Funnel Weavers are deadly poisonous, and are absolutely everywhere.

Austrailia, finally, is also home to an extremely oppressive government, and extremely drunk austrailian rednecks and visciously angry aboriginies who want to kill the hell out of you.

How do you pronounce Octavia's name?

Oc-tah-via or Oc-tay-via?

>>29096416
I think that was just the shock of it snapping Twilight out of it. Celestia's horn didn't even glow.

>>29096404
She's immortal and directly responsible for the sun. That spells deity to me. Maybe not newfangled monotheistic omnipotent omniscient omnipresent capital-G God, but still a god.

>>29096436
The sun thing is her only trick.

>>29096382
this
i contest that she has mind bending multidimensional powers, and her battle with nightmare moon took place across an infinite number of parallel realities, and within higher dimensions not conceivable by three dimensional beings.

like, half of their fight just looked like this impossibly complex geometric structure spinning and pulsating wildly

>>29096436
Well, she does run a school for magic, and takes Twilight on as her personal student. She must have something to teach.

>>29096435
It's not like she was charging them anything. If they don't like they were free to spend their time elsewhere.

>>29096436

Its not been implied, its been proven.

Celestia has the innate magic of all three pony types.
Celestia was able to use all the elements of harmony together by herself.
Celestia stopped twilight's magic crazy time by simply touching her.
Celestia runs a school for unicorn magic. How could you instruct students without the ability to teach them?

Celestia's magic is proven to extend WAY beyond the scope of the sun.

>>29096454
Oc-tay-via, though I get the feeling that's wrong.

>>29096454
Tay.

>>29096471
>allofmymoney.jpeg

>>29096454
you spell it doc-ock

>>29096474
Oh, yeah, even a weak pony would be incredibly skilled after that long. She's certainly not weak, I'm just saying that that power comes from practice and learning, not inherent ability.

>>29096454
tah

Like Octave

>>29096489
It's incorrect in a musical sense, but when written that way, the laws of english say "tay."

>>29096481
I'll grant you the first, but the next to are speculation at best, and the last proves she's skilled and intelligent, not an all-powerful god.

>>29096509

I agree with this.

>>29096445
Yeah, but at least we're riding out the financial crisis. A country built on mining and farming does alright when all that fancy stock market malarkey goes tits-up.

>>29096508
Best.
Fanon.
Ever.
Hm-nah, hm-hnah. HM-NAH HM-NAH.

>>29096454
Tay, like Dr Octopus' real name.

>>29096529

Its not speculation. Watch the first darn episode. It doesn't just tell you she did it, it shows you her doing it. She is wearing the damn element of magic on her head, despite her cutie mark not being magic.

>>29096326
>start reading up on it

>In order to prove that the jellyfish was the cause of the syndrome, he captured one and deliberately stung himself, his son, and a local lifeguard, and observed the symptoms.

that was one hardcore motherfucker

>>29096326

beastmode jellyfish is beast.

On the television program Super Animal, a woman compared her pain from childbirth to her experience with Irukandji syndrome: "It's like when you're in labor, having a baby, and you've reached the peak of a contraction—that absolute peak—and you feel like you just can't do it anymore. That's the minimum that [Irukandji] pain is at, and it just builds from there."

to make this pony related, i hope scootaloo goes for a swim and gets stung.

Trixie and Gilda never existed, Ponyville and the surrounding countryside are in an area saturated by a hallucinogenic gas. This causes the citizens below Canterlots elevation to suffer mass hallucinations. This explains why Pinkie can do what she does all the way to being in two places at once. This is why parasprites could almost level the town, and the next morning nothing is amiss. It also explains why Sweet apple acres seemed so endless. What causes this gas to linger? Why hasn't anything been done?
Well, that would ruin the fun of course. And when you own the largest outdoor asylum in the kingdom, you are allowed to have a little fun.

>>29096481
>Celestia has the innate magic of all three pony types.
Which means she's unique in that she's a fourth kind of pony
>Celestia was able to use all the elements of harmony together by herself.
To be fair, that's only one way of looking at it. It was never explicitly stated that she did it alone...maybe she had prized students a thousand years ago to help her.
>Celestia stopped twilight's magic crazy time by simply touching her.
Touched her. That's it...again, wasn't explicitly stated she did anything but that...though while that in itself wasn't so impressive, that she managed to get close to her kinda is. Unless any other pony could have wandered in after Twilights wild spell started and been unaffected since they werent there when it started. It's not really stated.
>Celestia runs a school for unicorn magic. How could you instruct students without the ability to teach them?
As someone said, thousands of years to learn her more generalized magics means she has something to pass on, not necessarily that she's all powerful...

Or maybe she doesn't do so much teaching in the way of magic afterall...maybe she has instructors do that and she's primarily a benefactor/life lessons teacher.

>>29096568
What is this? A professor Layton game?

>>29096521
Ah, I see, I see. How does the musical sense of it work? I don't know shit about music, so unless it's easily available on google, or you can teach, I don't have a clue.

>>29096559

wouldn't you go insane if you were forced to endure that much pain for such long durations?

>>29096568
>everyone in equestria are psychopaths

mah nigga

>>29096587

Octave.

"Ock-Tiv"

>>29096556
which is a storybook, it also doesn't tell you the specifics of the battle. Whether or not there were multiple ponies with her is unimportant to the tale - and even so, the elements of harmony mostly aren't tied into magical ability

>>29096581

>>29096559
I read somewhere that when a person is stung by them, the doctors basically give them so much morphine they're basically in a coma, and have to go through rehab when they finally get better because of all the morphine.

AND THEY STILL SHRIEK IN PAIN THE WHOLE TIME. I remember reading about one person who screamed so hard he suffered permanent damage to his vocal chords.

>>29096597
That's how Octave is pronounced? Wow, I've been saying it wrong all my life. I always thought it was "Ock-Tayve". Thanks for that, anon.

>>29096568

trixie = luna.

im ok with this.

>>29096454
I say it with a long A.

>Celestia is/is not a god.
Oh, it's this shit again.

>>29096623
It's actually more like "ock-tihve."

I still think that Celestia used the elements alone.
NMM was sure she one because she destroyed the stones. The artifacts themselves.
She didn't know that a pony could embodied it and use their power.
This is why I believe that NMM was banished and not reverted to Luna.
She used the Elements alone. Without the power of friendship they couldn't restore her back.

>>29096650
Introduce a different topic then.

>>29096650
FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT.FIGHT

>>29096655
won*

>>29096535
It does alright as long as the resources are there. Once gone, Australia's going to collapse hard.

>>29096577

You have to blatantly disregard everything that is shown about her on screen to get anywhere believing that.

We are SHOWN her using the elements of harmony. We are shown her banishing her rival demigod, alone, wearing the element of magic. She was flying at the time of doing it, so unless the rest of the elements were all pegasi, she did it alone. And even if you want to pull something out of your butt and say she had a bunch of other (strangely invisible) ponies with her serving to bear the other elements, she was still wearing the element of MAGIC. Which means, by default, she is more powerful than normal ponies, like twilight is, except that celestia doesn't even have a magic related cutie mark.

Oh, she is also immortal. Or damn near it.

>>29096690
About 1% of Australia has ever been surveyed. I think we'll be alright.

>>29096705
Or it's a story book that is subject to the same distortions as regular mythology

>>29096663
NEW TOPIC
uh...
MEDICINE!

>>29096594
Your heart is more likely to explode. In cases of extreme pain, doctors put people into a chemically induced coma to ride out the storm.


Standard procedure for stings would probably be douse in vinegar to retract harpoons, carefully remove tentacles, inject anti-venom, get to a hospital -if the sting was really bad- put into a coma, then watch and wait.

>>29096721
I thought that was because the other 99% was desert.

>>29096736
It sucks
NEXT

>>29096736
Plot discussion?

>>29096736

if a pony broke his/her leg, would they need to be euthenized?

>>29096731
Everything in the book was 100% factual, you're just trying to justify your bullshit fanon.

>>29096749
GILDA!

>>29096736
Time for a shot!

>>29096748
Deserts still have minerals under 'em.

>>29096731
She fucking says to Luna that it's been 1000 years.

She is responsible for the raising of the sun. I'd say this puts her on level with someone like Ra or Horus.

>>29096705
I think it can be assumed that, even taking Celestia as using all of the elements at once, they aren't tied in to exact powers.

Otherwise, you're saying Celestia is canonically a seamstress, apple farmer, etc. The EoM doesn't neccesarily mean your special talent is as general as magic, just that you're really good at magic.

>>29096749
Let's talk about the Apple Family Mafia.

I like that idea.

>>29096731

Its no more subject to distortion than the show itself, which, being a cartoon, is an animated storybook.

If you can't support your position without resorting to "the show lied", you have already lost that position.

>>29096705
We're shown a piece of in-universe artwork depicting her battle.

That's. It.

Now, if they give us a flashback in season 2 of the fight itself and she is show to be all on her own, then fine.

AS it stands though, it's purely artistic license.

>>29096754
They are no longer fit for the running of the leaves.
They are taken out into the Everfree and shot.

>>29096754
No, because magic.

>>29096754
Yes it can no longer race therefore useless.

Australia is a terrible, desolate place filled with things that can kill you.

>>29096757
Anon, that was a troll, right? Please tell me you're trying to elicit a reaction here?

>>29096705

One could argue that an immortal being has more time to learn about spells and magic, and thus become more powerful than other magic users. We could assume that the Elements were a royal Heirloom handed down to Celestia and designed specifically to be used in such a situation, and that she was trained in their use and the use of the spell she used to banish Luna. The embodiments of the Elements made it possible for 6 young ponies to do the same, but not because they were trained.

Celestia is very powerful, but it may be due to her immortality and not her status as a de facto "god."

We may be shown later how she came to be immortal, or we may not. Time will tell.

Remember, this is all just for the sake of argument.

>>29096807
All tghe facts are shown in the show. It's not trolling to point them out.

>>29096763
She and Trixie sucks
NEXT

>>29096791
Your logic is a bit shit. You're assuming that something the show - canon - has shown us is wrong. It can only be proven wrong by the show. And that has not happened yet. Thus what the book says is, actually, true.

>>29096828
The 4th wall!

It's established that Celestia raised the sun, but it was also said that she took over the duties of raising the moon from her sister. Does this mean she has expansive powers or just that her talent is move heavenly bodies?

>>29096791

The book is no different from the show. Nothing in the show implied it was in any way false, or contained anything other than literal truth. In fact, we got the opposite, it contained a prophecy that was accurate to the second.

Seriously, when you have to distort the show, or ignore what is shown on it to support a fanon interpretation, you really need to step back and look at yourself.

The show gave us no reason to doubt what we were seeing, and never has, but every reason to believe it. Its depiction of nightmare moon was precise, why wouldn't its depiction of Celestia be?

Simple, you don't want it to be.

>>29096763
So now that I'm off the bus and back home, Pacce, in the last thread I wasn't asking you how to join an IRC channel, I was asking you TO join one because to be perfectly honest (and at risk of becoming overly ponychan), I enjoy talking to you.

And I may have been hoping to obtain a new friend, somebody I could freak out at once I begin my inevitable play-through of Fallout 1.

Well, I am now going to spend the rest of my life staying the fuck as far away as possible from Australia. This includes not going to New Zealand.

>>29096828
Dancing ponies?

>>29096831
You LIKE somebody here?
fag
it's... it's not like I like you too or anything

>>29096786
They control most of the agriculture industry
All other big families that produce vegetables and fruits are under their control. They live a sweet life.
They also have a deal with the Princess.
They provide food and don't cause any trouble and the Princess doesn't send them to the moon.

NEXT

ITT: The creator of the New Lunar Republic deviantart group ignoring canon

>>29096824
But surely you appreciate the possibility that they are not, in fact, facts at all? I mean, artistic license, as that other anon pointed out, is still a factor. Intradiegetically there are a billion reasons why a storybook may not be accurate. We can assume that it is, based on what we know so far, but we can also assume the opposite, considering the amount of leeway there is in the story as depicted in Episode 1. It could be abridged, it could be inaccurate. They do say the winners write the history, and it is a children's show, after all. There are possibilities that go one way or the other, or even both! Isn't that evidence enough that there are no one hundred percent accurate judgments in this?

>>29096828
What if they combined?

God or not, this thread calls for some Celestia images.

>>29096812
>Remember, this is all just for the sake of argument.

Really, this should be assumed with every post. Some people are getting awfully defensive. I like your take on things...don't necessarily agree, but it's a sound idea.

Given that Luna and Celestia are clear counterparts, yet Luna is much younger, I'd argue neither is immortal...simply very long lived. Maybe in olden times, Alicorns were plentiful and each family controlled part of the world and it's 'natural' order. Something happened, they died off, the 'lesser' ponies took their places, oblivious and now do what workload they can to control the environment, while Luna and Celestia are the last of their kind, orphans of a past age.

>>29096849
It hanged itself after the sonic rainboom
NEXT

>>29096846
So you're saying Pinkie Pie created Equestria by watching a Sonic Rainboom from her rock farm.

>>29096852
Actually, the show DOES show it doesn't have all the facts. That was the ENTIRE POINT. It had SOME of the information, not all of it, that's why twilight didn't know anything about the elements themselves, because it was a storybook which didn't contain all the information.

>>29096863
They are cute but ultimately suck at it
>>29096891
They still suck
NEXT

>>29096873
We can be bros. I know like four Anons that I consider my friends, though it's sometimes hard to pick them out of the crowd.

>>29096897

Similar to the fading race of the Elves of Tolkien, eh? I love it.

>>29096876
When people say this has turned into the Sonic fandom, I disregard them. Except for when it comes to that guy.

>>29096831
Oh.
Well, right now I'm getting ready for work. Perhaps later.

>>29096951
All right.

>>29096886

Get real. Its a kids show, if the book was lying they would have made it abundantly clear. The book was a HISTORY book. It contained the history of the fight and it also gave a precise timeframe for the return of nightmare moon. Everything the book said was true, as it panned out that way in the show.

>>29096895
Celestia is my favorite pony. I like this idea.

>>29096904
We kinda know that Equestria existed before the Sonic Rainboom, so, no, not exactly. Plus Pinkie was making a joke, although this is a question of interpretation. Still, my first point is valid.

>>29096933

>>29096934
I still remember you Deaf...
And what you did...
But I still like you.
You are above OK in my book

>>29096850
All unicorn magic ultimately boils down to telekinesis, although applied in very creative ways sometimes. If Celestia is able to move the sun, she should equally have power enough to move the moon.

Just compare the effort it took Twilight to move that water tower, compared to Celestia's spectacle of raising the sun.

>>29096895

>>29096962
The validity of the actual details of the book has never come up in a plot point, that doesn't make them exact. Go 1000 years back in our world and you're not going to find a 100% accurate retelling of ANY event.

>>29096904

No, but we do know you are an idiot that does not know how logic works.

>>29096876

More like ITT: one faggot getting way too fucking mad over a simple discussion of the show

>>29096991

celestia sure is pretty

>>29096962
If you're really telling me to "get real" about speculation on something that hasn't been conclusively confirmed in the show, then I have to assume you're either being deliberately obtuse, or simply set in your ways that I don't agree with. Hell, I don't even think what you're saying is sensible! The other anons are absolutely right about this one.

>>29096970
Gilda, check out all these ponies I like more than you. Ignore you, I don't know why they put you there.

>>29096994

>hurr durr i forget the fact that one of the principle participants in the book is still alive

Seriously do you even try

OH DEAR GOD I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ba0jTpp_Vo&feature=player_embedded

>>29096992
>Using my art
People still do this?

>>29097018

GUYS STOP TALKING ABOUT LORE

SEE THAT ONE ANON?

HE KNOWS WHATS UP

THERE AINT NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR IN THE SHOW

GUYS SEE HIM

GUYS PAY ATTENTION TO HIM AND STOP TOSSING AROUND IDEAS BECAUSE ANYTHING YOU THINK OF IS JUST FANON YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH LIKE HE SAID

THERES NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT SINCE ONLY WHATS EXACTLY STATED IN THE SHOW MATTERS

GUUUUUYS

>>29097020

I think he means "get real" as in stop being a moron and apply even a slight bit of logic to the positions, which you clearly aren't. You are attempting to push a fanon agenda at the expense of established canon, which makes you a shitposter in my eyes.

>>29097031
I still love you Plant Man

But Elecman is still better

>>29097027
Biographies still occasionally contain errors.

>>29097018

Indeed she is. And thank you for that image, I didn't have that one yet.

>>29096990
Also, don't forget the sun is 'pretty big'. I'd like to see you try and move it.

Posting Celestia

>>29096994
But that's assuming canon is wrong with no real reason. Our world is our world. Equestria is not our world. To make it simple:
Book is right: because canon says so
Book is wrong: because I assume that books can be false
The book can still be wrong, but even if Faust herself said that the book was wrong, it'd still not be enough, because the show states something, and does not contradict it any time later on.

>>29097034

yes
"wings"

>>29097050
lol no

>>29097049
So, what, you'd prefer we talk about marshmallow buttholes or something rather than taking the perfectly reasonable jump that maybe a storybook isn't a 100% perfect representation of something, so we can actually talk about the show for once?

>>29097049

So we shouldn't ever discuss anything that might be possible because the show already shows us everything that we need to know?

Okay, I guess everyone just pack up. No more posting in these threads. Nothing to talk about here.

Get fucked you immense shitstain.

Trixie has a mansion somewhere, she's alright

>>29097021
And I used to think you were cool.

>>29097010
I do know how logic works.

I am simply applying the logic "they said it in the show and therefore it must be canon until explicitly contradicted" and applying it to a situation wherein the statement becomes absurd.

>>29097031
I didn't know you were still around

>>29097056

her face looks a little weird in that one

>>29097069
The problem is you have no imagination and you're assuming that anyone who does, anyone who brainstorms possibilities based off of gaps in the show is trying to shove fanon down your throat.

>>29097069
Canon does not say the book is right. The validity of the book has never come up. Canon says the book exists, and the major details are right, nobody ever said "This book is completely right"

Are you being purposefully obtuse? Can we just talk about the show, even if it requires a slight logical leap?

>>29097080
But...but...
You traitorous bastard. I trusted you
At least Flash Man will always be more of a man then you will ever be

>>29097049
I'm not attempting to push an agenda at all, and if you think I'm a shitposter, then okay, you're entitled to that. What I'm trying to point out is that the book isn't comprehensively conclusive, so there is leeway in the argument. That is undeniable.

>>29097018
This is the greatest thread

Hi guys!
I just woke up, and I feel like crayoning, since I now have printer ink. give me something to print and color.

>>29097099
It was explicitly contradicted by Equestria being created earlier than the Sonic Rainboom. No, you cannot into logic.

1000 MORE YEARS

>>29097094


>might be possible

Thats where your neurons stop firing, apparently. Its not possible, because we are already told it works differently. Try discussing something that IS possible, something that hasn't already been firmly established in canon and you won't have people calling you for being a fanon pushing fucktard. Nobody cares about you talking about fanon possibilities, they only care when you try to overwrite canon with them.

>>29097143
DO THIS!

>>29097136

>>29097157

The 100% factuality of the book is not canon.

Next question.

>>29097165

>>29097143
Do your crayons have what it takes?

Also, take over MARKER duty. I have to go to work.

>>29097143
I double dare you to do this

>>29097106
I usually stay away from these threads.Taking a pony break till the new season
>>29097124
But he's worthless! Bright man was a lot better.

>>29097158
>>29097158
OKAY!
I know the panic ponies, but whose the guy?

>>29097173

actually it is, until its contradicted in the show. Which it won't be.

>>29097185
I knew you'd be back. They all come back.

>>29097157
Nobody is trying to overwrite canon, we're theorizing about what's inbetween the gaps that canon doesn't touch.

because canon DOESN'T touch these things, it is never stated one way or another. The show does NOT state the book is absolutely undeniable, and if you seriously think it does, I suggest you learn what "canon" actually means. It is canon that that book exists, it is canon that what we see is what is contained in the book, but as nobody ever says it is right or wrong, canon does not say anything about its validity.

>>29097182
>That pic, finally coloured
GLORIOUS.

>>29097182
>>29097181
I'll do those two, also.
If I'm manly enough. Which isnt even a question

>>29097191
Colton

>>29097065
That does kinda put Luna's ability to move the moon to shame really.

Unless Luna is equally capable of moving the sun? I suppose Nightmare Moon did strike after it had already set...

>>29097191
>not knowing about Lord Colton Vines the Third
>in 2011

>>29097185
But Flash man was cooler...And we all know that the most awesome Robot Master is Quick man

>>29097194

Burden of proof lies with the claimant.

If you claim something is 100% true, you must prove it. Not the other way around. Great jearb.

>>29097208

Are you even reading this thread?

The entire argument is over something that IS established in canon, in great detail, in the first episode.

>>29097194
Now who's pushing their fanon? Hint: It's you.

The show doesn't say anything at all about the validity of the book. By your logic we can't talk about ANYTHING not explicitly stated in the show, because everything they haven't shown doesn't exist.

Also,ROOGNA!
Before I go, have this.
You may want to take off your pants before viewing though to save on laundry.

>>29097224

learn2burden

The claim that needs to be proven is that the book lied. Get on it.

>>29097267

Nobody said that the book lied. We're discussing what it didn't show.

>>29097239
I'm, unfortunately, the anon who suggested the theory in the first place. I didn't realise we hated talking about the show, you see.

Young man, you stop arguing this instant.

Faggots, please.

You're all a bunch of faggots.

So boriiing.

jesus christ, my net goes down for half an hour and the entire thread goes to complete shit.

fuck you all.

>>29097261
DAMNIT! I didnt take your advise, and now I have to do my laundry.

>>29097206
Well yeah, this is the only place I can come for news. Where else am I supposed to know when season 2 comes out, equestria daily? HA speaking of that, any date confirmed?
>>29097219
You mean this quick man?

>>29097267
Nobody is saying the book definately lied. We're saying that the show doesn't touch on it either way, which makes it fair game for theorising, because the show DOES NOT STATE IT IS 100% CORRECT

>>29097299
September 17th is the day the first episode will air.

>>29097293
Langweilig

>>29097282
Oh look who's talking

>>29097299

sept 17th, man


so close!

>>29097299
If you visted EqD you would know this already.

>>29097299
...
Well fuck you.
Also Have I introduced you to may newest friend?

>>29097246

Holy shit, someone can't be this stupid. They really can't be, you are a troll, you have to be.

The book doesn't exist. Neither does equestria. Its a cartoon show. The book is in fact an means of introduction to the series. You are claiming, with no reason other than because you want to push a specific agenda, that the show is lying. The book was a device to introduce the series.

Learn the difference between reality and fiction for fucks sake, and how canonicity in television works

Yes, the book is 100% true because its the damn intro to the series. It will remain 100% true until something on screen contradicts it. This is how television works,

>>29097218
Well, to make eternal night wouldn't she have to both keep the moon up AND keep the sun down?

>>29097312
>>29097320
Awesome! thanks!
>>29097327
>implying Seth or any one who visits EqD watches the actual show
>>29097333
No. I haven't been here in ages, how could yo have?

Who gives the best blowjobs?

Gilda

>>29097011
>>29097011
>>29097011
>>29097011
>>29097011

This.

Fuck you for ruining this thread, you immense faggot. If I could erase you from existence, I would. Please leave this thread and website forever. I hate you. This thread was amazing and you just had to spread your vast unfounded butthurt all over it without even understanding what you were arguing about.

Die shitsucker.

>>29097327
>if you visit EqD

EqD is shit.

>>29097348
I'm sorry, but if you're falling back on "It's a cartoon, it's not real" in an argument about worldbuilding, fuck off.

>>29097348
You are being a fucking retard.

Just saying.

>>29097370
Spike.

Ya know, I REALLY want to hear celestia say "My wings are so pretty!" in season 2.
Just for kicks

>>29097370
PECK PECK PECK

>>29097348

Everyone in this thread has told you that you are wrong. Please stop arguing.

>>29097119
>>29097118
I don't, I cannot see how is this unclear. The show shows us something, therefore it's most likely real. They aren't even saying it in a joking manner, it's a standard history book, which was probably written with the aid of someone who lived back then. All claims of the book that were later referred to were proven to be true, and no part of it was proven to be false. The validation for your fanon is that history books are, in most cases, off. We have seen no such case in Equestria. Your assumption is based on our world. You're also getting pretty defensive.
> it is canon that what we see is what is contained in the book, but as nobody ever says it is right or wrong, canon does not say anything about its validity
Canon says it's right just by putting it out there and not contradicting it and/or not saying that it could be off. Canon is what we see in the show. Have you seen this book in the show? I have. If the book said that Luna had orange hair, and Luna would come back having her normal hair, your assumptions would be perfectly valid. Nothing similar has happened though, so things that are shown in the book are, for now, considered true. Things it didn't show, e.g. details of the battle - that's open for speculation.

>>29097370

>>29097389
Who are you to talk, you retarded hermaphrodite?

>>29097402

stop samefagging

>>29097368
there's always http://derpyhooves.com

though the guy who runs that isn't much less of a faggot than seth

still, no fanfics and relatively few retarded PMVs, so there's that

CONVERSATION GONE TO SHIT

DUMPING PICTURES

>>29097416

This discussion is over.

>>29097348
The argument seems to me like you can summarise it as thus:
People that subscribe to extradiegetic schools of thought say the book is entirely right, because it's the intro to the show, it's a children's show, nothing explicitly proves it's wrong.
People that subscribe to intradiegetic schools of thought say the book may not be right, for whatever reason, within the show, because of history, or politics, or whatever.
We're never going to be able to reconcile these two viewpoints, can't we just agree that it doesn't cover everything and leave it at that?

>>29097368
Oh but you know him...
I'm pretty sure you are actually friends.

I already hired Flame man to kill him after he's done with you. That will teach him about killing Rarity Twice...