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    47 KB MLP General/Draw your own Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:11 No.23513542  
    My sister and I came up with this pony. What pony creations can you guys come up with. Suggestions are welcome as she would like some more practice with vectors.

    So yeah, Pony General.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:13 No.23513618
    Giant eyes don't make for a awkward stare, just a sort of creepy one.
    To be awkward he should look like he is considering something while he stares.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:25 No.23514009
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:27 No.23514115
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    I'm gonna dump shit until this thread becomes 20% cooler
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:28 No.23514146
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    >>23514115
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:28 No.23514150
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    So I managed to decrypt the first iTunes episode. 720p, AAC stereo audio as well as AC3 5.1 audio, colors are washed out and the AC3 audio is only 192kbps for some reason (instead of the usual 384) but otherwise it's pretty damn good.
    Pic related.

    Also, conspiracy theorists out there: where did the statue of liberty getup come from??!?!?!?! Hmmmm?!?!
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)22:29 No.23514171
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    >>23514115
    sounds good

    >applejack's die-cast applecar accessory
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:29 No.23514183
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    >>23514146
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:30 No.23514198
    >>23513618
    Or just give it a lazy eye. Does wonders for Derpy.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:30 No.23514222
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    >>23514171
    >>23514183
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:30 No.23514226
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    While we're on the topic of custom ponies...

    I'm making up a prostitute pony and the only name I could think of, Sweet Stuff, is already taken by a G1 pony (seriously).

    What should I name her?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:30 No.23514229
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:31 No.23514235
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:31 No.23514238
    Someone accidentally made a Sue Storm pony in a previous thread. Eagerly awaiting more Doctor Whoof-esque happy accidents.
    >> Diabolical 02/15/11(Tue)22:31 No.23514250
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    >OC thread
    Must.........resist...........urge........
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:31 No.23514255
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    I drew my friend this for her birthday. She loved the hell out of it.

    I'm not a brony, but I'm apparently good at drawing them.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:31 No.23514258
    >>23514150
    More importantly, why would Liberty be wearing a saddle?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:32 No.23514280
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    >>23514222
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)22:32 No.23514282
    >>23514222
    >applejack
    >subaru outback
    noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope

    'round on this farm we drive PAPPY's truck. it aint broke so we dont fix it. don't need no fancy new car
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:32 No.23514283
    God damn it why isn't it Friday yet. You guys get me hooked on this shit and now I have to actually wait for it.
    >> purple_motion 02/15/11(Tue)22:32 No.23514285
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    Already another thread

    Keep this in one thread
    >> /v/aliant /co/mrade !0gEh9TdDbQ 02/15/11(Tue)22:32 No.23514294
    so are we ever going to find a home base for the society?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:32 No.23514302
    Last time I posted mine, it got written into a story.
    I'll leave well enough alone this time.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:33 No.23514312
    >>23514235
    Is... is that... Twilight?
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)22:33 No.23514316
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    lol apple
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:33 No.23514326
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    >>23514258
    >mfw EVEN THE STATUE OF LIBERTY WAS TURNED INTO A PONY BY CELESTIA
    >> CANDYBAG 02/15/11(Tue)22:33 No.23514327
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    >>23513432
    Is it ok now?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:33 No.23514334
    >>23514255
    she was just being nice. it's shit. i'm just being honest with you here
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:34 No.23514348
    >>23514226
    Is there one already called Strawberry Sugar?
    First thing that popped into my head.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:34 No.23514353
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    >>23514226

    Easytail
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)22:34 No.23514360
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    >>23514294
    if we could get the owner of FiMchan on the phone, we could set up a board and some stickies for writing guides ect.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514374
    >>23514316
    You know what else is weird?
    When downloaded, the show says it has a TV-Y rating, not TV-Y7.
    But I'm glad those requests I sent to the iTunes store and Discovery's feedback form actually did something.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514382
    >>23514348
    >>23514353

    SUGARTAIL
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514384
    >>23514226
    Charlotte.
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514387
    >>23514302
    ......
    ok, NOW i'm curious
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514390
    >>23514334

    I would feel better if you weren't from 4chan. I hate that I can draw them, so you saying it's shit usually doesn't mean it is.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514393
    >>23514226
    sticky cherry
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514396
    >>23514348
    Strawberry Shake is mai oh cd donut steel
    >> Snarky Bastard 02/15/11(Tue)22:35 No.23514397
    >>23514327

    there you go. took you a whole day to do a hand?
    >> /v/aliant /co/mrade !0gEh9TdDbQ 02/15/11(Tue)22:36 No.23514398
    >>23514360
    he's probably away. QUICKLY! TO FiMCHAN TO SPAM THE SHIT OUT OF REQUESTS FOR A SOCIETY BOARD!
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/15/11(Tue)22:36 No.23514400
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    @Noel

    This is what I was talking about. Big circle for the head, two smaller circles for the body.

    But yes, if you wanted to give a brief overview on a better way to draw them, that would be greatly appreciated. Any bit of knowledge I can soak up is always welcome.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:36 No.23514402
    >>23514226

    *googles*

    Jesus christ you're right. There are some twisted people in MLP land...
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)22:36 No.23514417
    >>23514374
    Last i checked it was tv-y on hub too
    >> MegaSweet !6/JhxoKXsc 02/15/11(Tue)22:36 No.23514420
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    Gilda.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:36 No.23514421
    >>23514390
    It's just like, my opinion, man. And your complete lack of technical skill. Just saying.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514430
    and then mindfang was a vampire
    >> That One Guy !9CUY39dDYo 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514433
    Since this is the general, I'll ask here too.
    Anyone have that list of drinks based on poni?
    >> Lucid !0oSwOEGDeI 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514441
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    >>23514294
    I don't know /v/aliant... I just don't know anymore.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514448
    >>23514430

    OH JESUS CHRIST HOW'D I END UP IN THE PONY THREAD
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514455
    >>23514316
    Why does everyone who captions that picture always make a homestarrunner reference?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514458
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    op, your pony needs eyebrows
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514459
    Requesting CWC's Cherokee-chan, G4 style being picked on by everybode else in ponyville
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514461
    >>23514226
    Sugar Coat
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:37 No.23514465
    >>23514420
    Awesome.
    Thread is now 20% cooler.
    >> Hiro !J02Ujjg4Nw 02/15/11(Tue)22:38 No.23514468
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    >>23514420
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:38 No.23514474
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    >>23514397
    Actually I didn't make it.
    ;_;

    The person who made this sprite did
    <<
    >> Snarky Bastard 02/15/11(Tue)22:38 No.23514475
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    i can't draw.

    is there a creator program?
    >> /v/aliant /co/mrade !0gEh9TdDbQ 02/15/11(Tue)22:38 No.23514481
    >>23514420
    >that finger
    i sure as hell would!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:38 No.23514485
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    so, do we have a ponified version of this yet?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:38 No.23514495
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    >>23514326
    When glorious Equestria takes over this world, all history shall be replaced by ponies. Landmarks shall be recrafted and their tales forgotten. You will not miss your old lives, gentlefoals, for you shall not remember them.
    Such is my infinite mercy.
    >> Night !Shift4J19Y 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514496
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    >>23514387
    Was messing around with the template to do up a character portrait for the trial run my group is giving the Puzzles'n'Ponies system.
    Squeak took a liking to it.
    I was quite pleased with the story.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514503
    >>23514459
    >>23514459
    >>23514459
    >>23514459
    >>23514459
    >>23514459
    >>23514459
    YES

    ALSO NEEDS TO BE FAT AND UGLY

    POSSIBLY SHITTING HIMSELF
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514506
    The Hub did good, releasing their shows in HD on iTunes.
    Now if only it didn't cost 70 bucks for the whole season. Aren't Bluray seasons of shows cheaper than that (and higher res, too)?
    >> /v/aliant /co/mrade !0gEh9TdDbQ 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514508
    >>23514441
    we must stay vigilant!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514512
    >>23514316
    You're gonna make it, Twilight. You just keep scrapin' along.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514515
    >>23514420
    OH SHI-

    When you see it...
    >> Snarky Bastard 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514516
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    >>23514420

    i've found the perfect mate for Humanized Gilda.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514521
    >>23514226

    Yeah you're not going to get much better then Sweet Stuff.

    Fluttershy is basically Sweet Stuff now, so they probably won't bring her back.
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)22:39 No.23514525
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    So, i just made a deviantart, i got most of the brony tripfags, i think, watched. Anyone else who does pony art i should know about?
    >> That One Guy !9CUY39dDYo 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514530
    >>23514433
    Anyone?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514535
    >>23514420
    MS, do you still remember my "human rarity wearing only her robe" request?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514542
    >>23514294

    Home base....
    The Society....
    you're not planning on taking over the world or anything, are you?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514544
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    new at drawfagging here, and, man, I got no idea what the hell I'm doing.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514545
    >>23514525
    fyre-flye
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514546
    >>23514485
    So, you have no respect? What a surprise.
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)22:40 No.23514547
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    >>23514400
    it's a system expanded from anonypony's initial dives into pony anatomy
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:41 No.23514561
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    >>23514226

    This is why we can't have good generals anymore.
    >> PK !js2lIkxuL6 02/15/11(Tue)22:41 No.23514566
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    made with the brony template. What do you guys think?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:41 No.23514568
    >>23514222
    while twilight sparkle is practical, she's also magical. i think the pt cruiser doesn't fit her
    >> MegaSweet !6/JhxoKXsc 02/15/11(Tue)22:41 No.23514580
    >>23514535

    Indeed. First thing after I finish the bubbleum pics, I'm working on that.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:42 No.23514587
    >>23514561
    u mad
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:42 No.23514589
    >>23514420
    lol at the cutie mark. that's gonna be a pain after they break up
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:42 No.23514593
    >>23514496
    And now that I look at it again, I see a million things wrong.

    BACK TO PHOTOSHOP.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:43 No.23514609
    >>23514515
    haha, that is a nice touch there
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:43 No.23514614
    anypony got that pic of futa-Rainbow Dash with pregnant Applejack in reverse cowgirl?
    >> projects; The last picnic, crossette, no arms twilight !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)22:43 No.23514619
    >>23514485
    working on it
    well, i will be after my test tommorow
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:43 No.23514622
    >>23514530
    I can't find it. Oops wrong computer, sorry
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:43 No.23514628
    >>23514334
    *is the one who that was drawn for*

    Its not shit don't be a asshole.
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)22:44 No.23514637
    >>23514226
    >I'm making up a prostitute pony
    >I'm making up a prostitute pony
    >I'm making up a prostitute pony

    The last thing I need is Rod Serling announcing that I have entered another dimension...
    >> CANDYBAG 02/15/11(Tue)22:44 No.23514641
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    >>23514420
    FUCK YES THANK YOU

    Is she wearing Leon's jacket?

    Actually, her hair/face looks like a badass female version of Leon.


    what is the RD cutie mark supposed to mean?


    Thanks again bro, you're the best.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:44 No.23514648
    >>23514525
    ...
    I..sprouted major trouser tentage.
    I'm ashamed of myself.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:45 No.23514661
    >>23514547
    Huh. I never come up with any theories on how to draw ponies. No matter how many times I dive into pony anatomy.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:45 No.23514674
    >>23514641
    that's no cutie mark
    it's a tattoo
    like getting a girl's name tattoo'd in a heart on your arm
    but for lesbians
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:45 No.23514677
    >>23514587
    u fag
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:45 No.23514681
    >>23514525
    I assuming you've also got Ms. Faust's DA on the watchlist?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:45 No.23514684
    >>23514255
    Hooves a bit too thick in some points, mane usually starts closer to the horn, and if one of them is a male, the shape of the nose should be a bit different... but you seem to have a good notion of what you're doing, it's not bad. Now it's a matter of practice, I guess.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:46 No.23514690
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    >>23514326
    >> Lucid !0oSwOEGDeI 02/15/11(Tue)22:46 No.23514695
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    >>23514525
    You won't find me. I'll find you.
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)22:46 No.23514707
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    >>23514496

    Ah, the Memories. Thanks for thinking him up by the way, otherwise that story would have gone in a completely different direction.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:47 No.23514715
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:47 No.23514717
    >>23514628
    >implying my subjective opinions and noticing of objective lack of technical merits are factually wrong
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)22:48 No.23514733
    >>23514681
    of course
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:48 No.23514737
    >>23514566
    Where is said generator?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:48 No.23514747
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    >>23514707
    SQUEAK

    Look at RD in this pic.

    Does it ring a bell?
    >> CANDYBAG 02/15/11(Tue)22:48 No.23514758
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    >>23514589
    >>23514674

    >mfw
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514763
    >>23514695
    link?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514768
    >>23514717

    > Implying this is a major piece of artwork that should be dissected, when it was just a gift by someone who doesn't even watch the show.

    At least they tried, bro.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514769
    >>23514226
    Trixy Turn
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514771
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    >>23514690
    >>23514326
    >>23514258
    >mfw the ponified statue of liberty cosplay is canon
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514775
    >>23514717
    Technical merits are still opinions
    Troll harder
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514781
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    >>23514707
    hello squeak!
    I baked another cupcake just for you!
    the secret ingredient is OATMEAL
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:49 No.23514782
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    >>23514737
    >> Night !Shift4J19Y 02/15/11(Tue)22:50 No.23514793
    >>23514707
    Much obliged for throwing him in there.
    Although now I'm curious as to where it would have gone. Hmm.

    >reengaging ANON LURK MODE
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:50 No.23514794
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    the answers you seek are here
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514807
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    >>23514781
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514808
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    >>23514775
    >troll
    Technical merits are empirical observations. Nice to see you know nothing about how art works.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514809
    >>23514747
    Oh, damn. Lookit the little ballerina in the top right! It's so damn adorable. I'm going to have to crop that and make an image out of it.
    ...And there goes any masculinity I had left. Oh well. More room for Ponies and their delightful antics.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514811
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    >>23514458
    Usually don't see them unless they're actually making an expression that needs them. Is this better?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514824
    >>23514763
    Ooo, you should totally watch 14-bis.
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514826
    You don't even hide your perversions anymore. I was right, as always.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:51 No.23514830
    >>23514695

    Quick question, Lucid.
    In your "Stuck" story, you are going to keep your relationships with the ponies completely platonic, right?
    break it to me gently, please.
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)22:52 No.23514833
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    >>23514747

    *EEEEEEEEEEEEEHHH!!!*

    MFW It dawns on me. Oh my God it's Little Rainbow Dash in a dancing tutu!!

    That is so awesome!! Friendship meeter off the charts!!!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:52 No.23514848
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    >>23514781

    NO ONE EAT THAT CUPCAKE.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:52 No.23514850
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    >>23514715

    Also, this.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:52 No.23514858
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    just made this so dont troll

    Name: Varg the Cleft-Hoof

    Ponyville's first and only banker a result of a bureaucratic error which resulted in the conversion of his family haberdashery into a mausoleum and then into a bank once it was decided that the dead were better off not dying.

    Unfortunately, he is currently broke as Ponyville is a socialist paradise.

    Spends his free time rappelling from rooftops to repair air conditioners in the dead of night.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:53 No.23514881
    >>23514808
    >Implying art is defined
    Enjoy your box
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)22:53 No.23514886
    I bet you have fursonas.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:54 No.23514903
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:54 No.23514908
    >>23514808
    >>23514881

    Hey. Both of you.

    Shut up.
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)22:54 No.23514912
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    >>23514781

    Maxie!! My Favorite! How did you know! You Are Crazy!!

    Did you get a chance to read your fic request?
    >> Sergeant Sprinkles: World's Greatest Party Clown !!zveYvhtPHtp 02/15/11(Tue)22:54 No.23514914
    I can't remember much about what happened. Some things would be clear if I could, but only up to that moment. I could have remembered the bitter taste of the metal on my tongue and the pressure in my as depressed the trigger. Then of course nothing else. Not when my head bounced back. Not the feeling of the bullet passing through my brain (brains don't nerve ending anyway) or when it showed itself out the back, turning my head into a blossoming flower of flesh and skull. I guess I fell down after that. Didn't notice the cascade of blood pouring out of my nose and staining my chest. Nobody likes a bloody nose. Then I if what I read was right, my body would get loose and made a mess on the floor. Gross. I would have wondered what the other ponies would thought when rushed into the room. I made sure they heard, other wise I would have done it somewhere else. I'll never find out though. Oh well.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)22:54 No.23514924
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    >>23514826
    hola mr hate!
    como has estado?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:54 No.23514929
    >>23514881
    >implying technical skill isn't an empirical matter
    Enjoy your lack of culture.
    >> PK !js2lIkxuL6 02/15/11(Tue)22:55 No.23514938
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    >>23514737
    It's actually a list of pony parts you can copy and paste in a program like photoshop to create your own pony. It's for people like me with no artistic skills.

    pic related
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:55 No.23514955
    >>23514886
    Senor, no creo que nadie le este haciendo caso.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:55 No.23514966
    >>23514929
    So what's empirical mean?
    >> Lucid !0oSwOEGDeI 02/15/11(Tue)22:55 No.23514967
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    >>23514830
    Nope. I'm going to eventually destroy every candyvag I can get my hands on!
    Not, really I'm just kidding. That'd be naaaaaasty. Only friendship.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:56 No.23514973
    >>23514420
    I can't scroll down, but I want to see her pussy!
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:56 No.23514974
    >>23514938
    >>23514782
    Thanks bros
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/15/11(Tue)22:56 No.23514989
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    >>23514914
    I blame you for making me want to write a spiritual sequel to Cupcakes.

    In which Dash is plagued by nightmares based off of said fanfic and slowly has her psyche fractured and cracked until she finally snaps and goes off the deep end
    >> PK !js2lIkxuL6 02/15/11(Tue)22:56 No.23514990
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    >>23514938
    derp I'm so slow
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:57 No.23514997
    >>23514929

    For fuck sake, it's a DRAWING. Stop acting like you're some snooty little shit who visits art museums just to criticize everything. " OHH I KNOW THINGS ABOUT ART, I'M ABOVE EVERYONE.". Grow up, sweetie, not everyone took art in school.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:57 No.23515004
    >>23514967

    That is the best thing I've heard all day. You rock!
    I'm gonna have to stalk you even more than before now.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:57 No.23515010
    >>23514966
    Something which is observed rather than being theoretical.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:57 No.23515014
    All facts

    Are still only opinions
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)22:57 No.23515025
    >>23514924
    Ahí andamos, preparándome para el inicio de clases.
    >>23514955
    ¿Y qué importa? Alguien tiene que alzar la voz en este océano de ignominia y perversión.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:58 No.23515044
    >>23515014

    Even your statement just now?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:58 No.23515049
    >>23514997
    You're getting increasingly defensive over me not liking you (or your friend's) little drawing.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:58 No.23515056
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    >>23514433
    >> Pacce of the many mustaches !!aEt/eFG7JWB 02/15/11(Tue)22:59 No.23515071
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    Sooo, this was sorta requested for me to give a colour job.
    Spoiler for bondage Pinkie, if you don't want to see it, don't click it.
    I'd say I'm sorry, but the truth is, this is the most fun I've ever had colouring anything ever.
    I even incorporated all of her friends into her "toys".

    Also, I had to change the art a little since the cutie mark was off a bit.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:59 No.23515078
    >>23515044
    ESPECIALLY that statement just now.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)22:59 No.23515082
    >>23514912
    yes! and I loved it! think I commented on the blog but I can't remember...
    >thanks a lot! you are my favorite writefriend!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:59 No.23515092
    >>23515049

    I'm neither, just a brony.

    You're being an asshole over nothing.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:59 No.23515096
    >>23514881

    No box.

    Artists usually have an objective in mind when they create art. If that objective is met, it's reasonable to consider it successful. If it is not, then it seems reasonable to consider it unsuccessful.

    If you have no clear objective in mind when you create art, you will get very confused very fast.

    Not samefag here, BTW.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)22:59 No.23515098
    >>23515014
    Mindblowing
    This thread is getting way too DEEP for me.
    >> toby !bZoJ2RLwYI 02/15/11(Tue)23:00 No.23515110
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    I colored this.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:00 No.23515119
    >>23515092
    >an asshole

    For giving my honest opinion about his drawing? Stop being so sensitive.
    >> Knigh/tg/uy 02/15/11(Tue)23:00 No.23515120
    >>23515025
    Es bueno ver otra persona que entiende Espanol. Alguine me puede dar las instrucciones para poner el acento sobre la n?

    Y si alguien puede leer esto, hay algo que quieren ver dibujado que no sea pornografia?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:00 No.23515121
    >>23515098
    DEEP like a horse's vagina
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:00 No.23515123
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    So /co/, there's something I need to show you...

    Why /b/, why?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:00 No.23515133
    >>23515014
    ponyplease.jpg
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515140
    >>23515110

    I saved this.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515153
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    >>23515082
    Hey Madmax!

    listen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P04EbzCKgE
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515156
    >>23515010
    0/10
    You cannot observe without theorizing what you have seen.
    Make up a better word next time
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515161
    >>23514966
    It's qualitative observations, of course. I wouldn't use that word if I didn't know what it means.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515170
    >>23515071
    wut
    >tries to name each friend in sex toy form
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515171
    >>23515025

    inicio de clases....que mal, oficialmente las vacaciones murieron
    feels bad...
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)23:01 No.23515173
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    >>23515025
    bak allah muhammad jihad
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:02 No.23515182
    >>23515110
    whyboner.png.gif.jpg.swf
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:03 No.23515210
    >>23515156
    >make up

    and the biggest retard in this whole thing emerges
    good job
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:03 No.23515218
    >>23515119

    It's not the opinion, it's the way you're going about it.

    Acting like you're intelligent about art, and yet the only thing you've said is " Technical" and "shit". Why not give real criticism? Like, the artist needs a REAL background, not the stereotypical green grass and blue sky with clouds. The ponys are drawn alright for a first try, but they seem too stiff.

    If you want to give an opinion and sound smart, try saying something more than " It's shit".
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:03 No.23515219
    >>23515119 here. You know what? You're right. I'm being a jerk. Forget it, we're all bronies here.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:03 No.23515224
    >>23515120
    >Y si alguien puede leer esto, hay algo que quieren ver dibujado que no sea pornografia?

    Spike wearing a long black coat.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:03 No.23515226
    >>23515161
    >qualitative observations
    >opinion
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:04 No.23515248
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    >>23513542

    Is that Syd Barrett as a pony?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:04 No.23515256
    hey fags shitting up the thread
    take it to >>>/sci/ or something
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:04 No.23515258
    >>23515153

    that song, you know my secret....but how?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:04 No.23515262
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    hey mexifags
    enough already
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:04 No.23515263
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    Is there a version of this that's just the logo with a transparent background? If not could anyone make one for me with smooth edges?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:04 No.23515269
    >>23515218
    Like I said, I apologize. I realize I could've and should've been nicer and more helpful about it.
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)23:05 No.23515275
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    >>23515123
    Holy shit, there's girls that like this shit? That's weird.
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)23:05 No.23515284
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    >>23515082

    You did! I want my 41 cakes you know!

    >Thank you, Madmax, you're my favorite drawfriend!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:05 No.23515287
    >>23515210
    Sauce? Or are you who you are referring to?
    >> DerKaiser !xSBwOktU3c 02/15/11(Tue)23:05 No.23515299
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    Gilda's had enough of your shit.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:05 No.23515300
    >>23515153

    They were not very good workers.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:06 No.23515303
    >>23515269

    Welll... Okay. As long as you know that. It's okay to have opinions, and really I agree it isn't the best, but be niiice. This isn't /ic/, this is /co/! One of the nicest boards.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:06 No.23515304
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    >>23515262

    I ALMOST HAD THEIR SECRET CODE CRACKED
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:06 No.23515318
    >>23515287
    But I am you
    >> Wolf Nanaki !3iI3gbP0ac 02/15/11(Tue)23:06 No.23515326
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    Okay, everything's fixed. Thanks to the guy in the previous thread who did the eye gradients.
    >> PK !js2lIkxuL6 02/15/11(Tue)23:06 No.23515329
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    >>23515303
    this is why I like /co/

    I came here brand new, not knowing anything about MLP, and instead of being rebuffed, i was welcomed with open arms.

    YOU ALL ARE AWESOME.
    >> Anonycat 02/15/11(Tue)23:06 No.23515331
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    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)23:07 No.23515334
    >>23515171
    Y bueno, se adelantaron las clases por el paro de docentes, yo los apoyo, ya que voy a ser uno de ellos, espero.
    >>23515120
    La ñ? No sé. Fijate en el Google.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:07 No.23515340
    >>23515299

    That flight jacket is quite sexy.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:07 No.23515352
    >>23515218
    >sound smart

    What is this? The most you could read out of my posts is a suggestion I have some basic art knowledge. I wasn't aware that's apparently beyond the scope of most people. I also didn't know that being polite enough to let someone know they're not "pretty good" and shouldn't be complacent was such a terrible thing to do.

    I guess I expected you guys not to be so incredibly delicate.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:07 No.23515362
    Don't forget Sodomuffin from Shortpacked
    >> Nathan !!eFuOgyMIEPo 02/15/11(Tue)23:07 No.23515365
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    An open request to the drawfriends of MLP General:

    I'd like to take my fic Pony Feathers and make it into a short comic (5-10 pages) but lack the artistic skill to do so. If I were to plan out the dialogue and number of frames/pages, would any of you be willing to assist?

    Link to fic:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/12SQu9cpeRFWqHq0poINdUHAuBMno3XBHcbRipSYEeT0/edit?hl=en#
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:08 No.23515382
    >>23514990
    Ascended meme!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:08 No.23515386
    >>23515334
    Admítelo, te encanta MLP.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:08 No.23515389
    >>23515284

    sorry, no 40 cakes....but I baked a super special cake, I'll post it later
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:09 No.23515407
    >>23515110
    Cool! Are you the guy who colored Weeapony's other stuff?

    >>23515123
    >Because!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:09 No.23515408
    >>23515382
    oh hey you've been to tvtropes neat
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:10 No.23515432
    >>23515352
    >>/ic/

    <-- Is that way
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:10 No.23515439
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    >>23514420
    HHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG WANT!!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:10 No.23515441
    >>23515386
    LOL I understood that! lol mcdonalds
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:10 No.23515448
    >>23515352
    Hey, don't imitate me. I said I apologized already, so don't keep trying to stir up trouble.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:11 No.23515458
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    >>23515334
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:11 No.23515460
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    >> toby !bZoJ2RLwYI 02/15/11(Tue)23:11 No.23515463
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    >>23515407
    I don't think so, but I do color stuff. Like this!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:11 No.23515465
    >>23514811
    i suggest angling the eyebrows upwards in the center like in the pic i posted. since the pony's expression is supposed to be akward, i think that emotion would be conveyed better with eyebrows.
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)23:11 No.23515468
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    >>23515389

    Super Special cake!?

    Super Special Awesome cake?
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:11 No.23515483
    >>23515334

    OMG! tu tambien? yo llevo casi un año esperando que me den una oportunidad dentro del sistema educativo, malditos burocratas!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:12 No.23515484
    >>23515299
    MORE GILDA!!
    >> Nobody Important 02/15/11(Tue)23:12 No.23515485
    >>23514769
    Trixie Turn, a former prostitute pony who, after years of abuse and humiliation finally got the courage to run away from her pimp, taking whatever money she could grab on the way out. Spending as little as possible, she slowly made her way across Equestria, eventually buying herself a wagon to sleep in, and a few books on magic. As horrible as her past had been, it was behind her, she reinvented herself, and using what she knew of manipulating other ponies, started a small traveling show as The Great And Powerful Trixie.

    And we all know how well *that* worked out for her.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:12 No.23515494
    >>23515468

    It's a huge cake made out of smaller cakes.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:12 No.23515502
    >>23515432
    Ridiculous. So we're just supposed to fawn over everything? We're not supposed to encourage anyone to improve? It's nice to see you prefer deliberately leaving someone who wants to do something well to wallow in mediocrity lest you make a slight scratch on his ego.

    You know what's sad? The guy who posted the pic wasn't even that mad. He accepted that I ahd a contrary view It's all of you who white knighted him. Way to go.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:12 No.23515509
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    >>23515248
    it is now in my pony folder!
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:13 No.23515529
    >>23515468
    with lots of sugar and lyra!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:13 No.23515530
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    >>23515352
    Ceci n'est pas une troll.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:14 No.23515542
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    His "special talent" is probably keeping secrets since he never speaks under any circumstances. He makes no noise when he moves around.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:14 No.23515543
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    >>23515468

    Om nom nom.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:14 No.23515561
    >>23515334
    >>23515468
    Spaniards?
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515567
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    >>23514400
    500 years later

    this is the closest to model any of you will likely ever see me draw anything at all for FIM.

    It wont really change the way things look, but it might help you with posing and figuring out the bodies if it changes the way you see it.

    Disclaimer: I am not qualified to teach anyone anything at all about anything ever. Anything I say has a high chance of not being understandable or just plain stupid.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515570
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    >>23514695
    we already know you play Blops, lucid
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515573
    >>23514420
    >>23515299

    Wonderful!

    She's got that Revy attitude and look
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515576
    >>23515543
    Hey! This isn't cake!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515578
    >>23515485
    She is eventually rescued by Hoity Toity... who merely turns her into a 'high class' prostitute.

    Trixie still cries herself to sleep at night, but at least she has a bed.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515580
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    Ponies have invaded everything!
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515583
    >>23515483
    Yo recién estoy empezando, voy a cursar primer año del Profesorado de Inglés. Yes, the one who butchers Shakespeare's language on a daily basis.
    >> Nathan !!eFuOgyMIEPo 02/15/11(Tue)23:15 No.23515591
    >>23515365
    >>23515365
    >>23515365

    So... nobody?

    Maybe I'll ask again in another thread.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:16 No.23515595
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    >>23515543
    don't know why but that looks delicious
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)23:16 No.23515596
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    >>23515529

    Sweeeeet! I do love extra on my cake!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:16 No.23515597
    >>23514255

    Okay, to make up for that guy being a jerk, here's some genuinely useful advice: your characters "against a background" rather than "in an environment". Add some foreground elements and some overlap.

    Also, the non-flying pony doesn't appear to be making contact with the ground. Try to think about how your character is interacting with the ground-plane, which parts of her body are baring her weight and how that would affect them (for example, her belly might be pressed flat against the ground). Cast-shadows would also help clarify the relationship between her and the ground plane.

    There are some problems with proportions and anatomy, but those are difficult to explain in a text comment.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:16 No.23515605
    >>23515542
    LOL and he SHUTS THE FUCK UP WITH HIS NEGATIVITY
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:17 No.23515624
    >>23515502
    you fail
    to understand
    that
    friendship is magic
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:17 No.23515625
    >>23515502

    OP of the picture here.

    This dude's right. I really don't care. I'm trying to be an artist and I can draw other things a lot better than this, but this was just a gift for a close friend. She liked it and that's all that matters, really. It's not like I'm going to be drawing ponies all the time now, it was a one time deal that took 30 minutes. 30. MINUTES. (also, not a he.)

    And dude that said it was shit, just cool your jets. Who cares if they're whiteknighting me? You're kind of making yourself look bad when you really don't need to. Just ignore 'em.
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/15/11(Tue)23:17 No.23515627
    Holy hell. I sure picked the wrong thread to talk art in, huh?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:17 No.23515628
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:17 No.23515638
    Just ignore >>23515502. Whoever it is is some troublemaker who keeps trying to pretend it's still me (the guy who posted >>23514334) shitting up the place.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:17 No.23515649
    >>23515580

    YOU'RE A LOOSE CANNON, PONY.

    I'M NOT RISKING MY BADGE FOR ANOTHER CRAZY STUNT LIKE THAT LAST ONE YOU PULLED.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:18 No.23515653
    Does anyone know of any torrents for the later episodes? My friend has a unsteady net connection and can't use the rapidshares that well. They have them all up to Bridle Gossip but we want to keep watching them together so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:18 No.23515657
    >>23515627
    Thread sort of went south, yeah.
    But I'm appreciating your guide.
    But...why so small handwriting? My terrible eyes can make no sense of it.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:18 No.23515658
    >mi cara cuando hispanos
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:18 No.23515659
    so has their been a robot unicorn attack but with MLP characters made yet?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:18 No.23515673
    Mr. Yaridovich, if you're still lurking then damn you. I have been listening to
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHZj8Xp-Ik&feature=player_embedded#at=25
    on youtuberepeat for what appears to have been over two hours.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:19 No.23515687
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    >>23515570
    not bad
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:19 No.23515690
    >>23515625
    your drawing isn't shit though. it isn't genius but it sure isn't shit. (i could post shitty a pony but i don't want to be a dick like the "art critic")
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:19 No.23515691
    >>23515605

    Maybe he even performs as a statue impersonator of sorts.
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/15/11(Tue)23:19 No.23515695
    >>23515567
    The only issue I have is trying to read your handwriting! But otherwise, I think I understand it. Basically it's like the shoulders and hips are solid parts, with the stomach part in between being a somewhat amorphous blob that hangs under its own weight, but has a decent degree of elasticity to it.

    I'll definitely pour over this and give it a shot.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:19 No.23515701
    >>23515658

    The fandom seems to be comprised of a large amount of hispanics and swedes.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:19 No.23515702
    >>23515658
    >Mi cara cuando soy de Europa, no américa.
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/15/11(Tue)23:20 No.23515705
    >>23515657
    Oh no, I was so proud of myself for making myself write big!

    Haha, would you like a transcript? My handwriting has been the bane of my mother since... well, since I learned to write.
    >> Spanky Jefferson 02/15/11(Tue)23:20 No.23515706
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    The only pony I would ever tolerate.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:20 No.23515714
    >>23515625
    Thanks for being the only other reasonable person in this whole thing. Good luck with your future art. Some studying and continual practice and you'll probably turn out alright. So long as you can take criticism (unlike everyone else in /co/ apparently) you're already on the right track.

    You're cool by me.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:20 No.23515725
    >>23515583
    mucha suerte con eso!
    tengo entendido que los examenes son devastadores
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:20 No.23515727
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    >>23515706
    >> Lucid !0oSwOEGDeI 02/15/11(Tue)23:21 No.23515744
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    >>23515570
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:21 No.23515747
    >>23515705
    >transcript
    I would be much obliged.
    Thanks for taking the time!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:21 No.23515756
    Has anyone noticed the irony that Hasbro made Celestia a princess so children wouldn't associate her with evil queens... and then we went and made her a tyrant anyway?

    And if she had been Queen Celestia as Lauren wanted, we would have been running with the evil queen stereotype!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:22 No.23515775
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    who's this douchebag?
    >> Spanky Jefferson 02/15/11(Tue)23:23 No.23515810
    >>23515775
    That pony is not morbidly obese. I call shenannigans.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:23 No.23515812
    >>23515775

    Is that Wolf Nanaki? I wouldn't know because i filtered him months ago
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:24 No.23515827
    >>23515714

    I'm getting better with criticism since I'm actually trying to use it when I get it. Criticism is a lot better for me than " Oh it's good!" or " I like the colors!". Criticism promotes growth, which I need. Can't wait to finish Senior year in Highschool (Yes I'm 18, not underage) so I can try to get into art college. I want to major in animation.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:24 No.23515829
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:24 No.23515836
    >>23515756
    well of course you did
    this is 4chan
    we subvert things because it's cool and edgy
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)23:24 No.23515837
    >>23515591
    careful nathan
    comics are a big time investment.
    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)23:24 No.23515849
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    >>23514747

    I cropped this out, I hope you don't mind. It's just so cute!! It's just how I pictured when I wrote the story!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:24 No.23515850
    >>23515299
    and i was just loading photoshop to color this. thanks, you saved me a lot of time
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:25 No.23515858
    >>23515775
    That's not Douchey Bags. Douchey Bags has his hair slicked up straight and is orangey-brown.
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)23:25 No.23515859
    >>23515725
    Terminé el curso introductorio con un 9,85 de promedio. Y uno aprueba con 6.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:25 No.23515869
    >>23515756
    LOLMAGICHITLER
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:25 No.23515874
    >>23515836
    we do it because it's hilarious
    /b/ does it because it's cool and edgy
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:25 No.23515878
    >>23515858
    Fucking guidos.
    Getting into everything.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:26 No.23515884
    >>23515567
    Why is it that all the most amazing artists have near-illegible handwriting?

    I tried, but I just could not read a lot of that.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:26 No.23515886
    >>23515849
    Looks like it's from that one cartoon about the kids parents that are fairies. You know the one.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:26 No.23515893
    >>23515714

    Art student here.

    The problem wasn't the criticism, as someone else has said, it's that the criticism wasn't useful, or at least, wasn't useful enough to make up for its unpleasantness.

    The criticism wasn't made out of an interest in helping, it was made out of an interest in boosting the criticizer's ego.
    >> Anonycat 02/15/11(Tue)23:26 No.23515899
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    >>23515701

    Agreguen a un Chileno más a la lista.
    La mercadería pirateada de FiM ya está disponible en las importadoras chinas y ferias persas, por cierto. (La serie la venden en la calle, subtitulada y todo, por solo mil pesos el DVD con 3 episodios)
    >> Spanky Jefferson 02/15/11(Tue)23:26 No.23515905
    >>23515827
    If you haven't become callous yet then don't go to the artwork critique board. They would anally violate you in the worst way imaginable.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:27 No.23515936
    >>23515827
    Professional animator? Good luck with that. A lot of those jobs are going to Korea and other cheap labor sources, and jobs for that are just scaling back in general. I don't know where you live, but if it isn't in one of the countries with prominent animation studios, good luck. Even if it is, some of them pay near slave wages for near slave labor, and still have high standards for you to get anywhere.

    Don't let me discourage you from chasing your dreams, though. Just be sure to be really dedicated if that's the field you want to pursue.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:28 No.23515944
    >>23515859
    oh my! yo el poco ingles que aprendi lo aprendi en la calle, jamas podria aprovar con una nota tan alta
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:28 No.23515946
    >>23515827

    That's my major. =]
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:28 No.23515947
    >>23515899
    >(La serie la venden en la calle, subtitulada y todo, por solo mil pesos el DVD con 3 episodios)

    Oh shit really? Is the quality decent? Probably not.
    >> Nathan !!eFuOgyMIEPo 02/15/11(Tue)23:28 No.23515949
    >>23515837
    I know that, which is why I'm looking at a short one. Simplifying the scenes and dialogue for a short comic shouldn't be too hard, and I don't expect the thing to be done anytime soon.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:28 No.23515959
    >>23515849
    It's glorious... a drawfriend needs to remake it!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:28 No.23515963
    >>23515905

    I wouldn't look to them in a million years! I'm mostly looking for it in my peers and teachers. Hell, our ceramics teacher can be brutally honest without being mean, so I tend to go to him if I want a good opinion.
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/15/11(Tue)23:29 No.23515981
    >>23515884
    You would not believe the disappointment my father suffered when I defied him and didn't become a lawyer/doctor/psychologist/something else prestigious with stereotypical bad handwriting.

    I'm manning up and am using the text tool. Not going to lie, my closest friend is a web designer and a total typeface nerd and I actually avoid using the text tool because I dont want to incur the wrath of THAT IS THE WRONG FONT.

    No, really. Thats honestly why I write shit instead of handy dandy text tool.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:29 No.23515982
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    >>23515465
    How about this? It kinda looks more concerned than awkward, though.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:29 No.23515986
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    >>23515849
    Way to bring back repressed memories!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:30 No.23515990
    >>23515628
    Is that a template or something? I remember wondering where that Rainbow Dash came from.

    >>23515591
    Comics take time... maybe try a collaboration, distributing the panels between the drawfriends? Could turn out beautiful.

    >>23515627
    This... has been happening way too often for my taste...
    Anyway, some tips from our best are always appreciated.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:30 No.23515991
    >>23515756
    Eh, doesn't matter about the name. Celestia just seems very much like a pharaoh or "God Emperor of Dune" or whatever due to the fact that she created the world according to Equestrian propaganda, anyways .

    Besides, having her be a horrible absolutist is just more hilarious.

    Personally, I get a very North Korean vibe from Equestria. The citizens believe that their leader created the world, have never seen outsiders and generally fear them (I guess Griffins are an exception), and ultimately they look to a representative of the royal court/dictator to solve all their problems (Twilight).
    >> Anonymoose 02/15/11(Tue)23:30 No.23516001
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    >mi cara cuando de repente, todos hablan español
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:30 No.23516005
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    >>23515362
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:30 No.23516009
    >>23515944
    >yo el poco ingles que aprendi lo aprendi en la calle

    Not easy to do. But you're better at it than most of my family who have been living here in the U.S. for years now.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:30 No.23516010
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    I love you Bronies! have a badly done Bowie Pony
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:31 No.23516016
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    fine I'll dump my pony OC... i got about 5, might as well dump em all right? Ive posted most of them before but w/e.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:31 No.23516021
    Yaridovich, you should add this AMV to the synchtube playlist, it's awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irQ_d78feMA
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:31 No.23516023
    >>23515990
    It's a modification of a well known image from some drawfag. I'd find the original to post, but effort.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:31 No.23516028
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    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:31 No.23516035
    >>23515899
    cuanto apuestas a que las bajaron de la pagina de mentos?
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)23:32 No.23516045
    >>23515944
    Estudié como un chino todo el año. Estudié como nunca.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:32 No.23516046
    >>23515936

    My problem is that I want to do things such as animation and comics, and both are declining, animation being overseas, and comics becoming (sadly) a dying art form.

    I want to do what I love, but I'm worried I won't be able to support myself that way. But who knows? I might make it big, find that one person who loves my art and I can make a fortune. It's a stretch, but aren't most dreams?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:32 No.23516047
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    2/5
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:33 No.23516073
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    3/5
    >> Nathan !!eFuOgyMIEPo 02/15/11(Tue)23:33 No.23516076
    >>23515990
    That's a good idea.

    Maybe have a different Drawfriend do each page.
    >> Spanky Jefferson 02/15/11(Tue)23:33 No.23516086
    ... goddamn I hate you pony-people.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:33 No.23516087
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    Did an attempt to use illustrator to finish this Pinkie Fudge Pudge pic.

    I'll leave the long self depreciating post and just say I don't like it and I dunno, maybe I'll redo it by hand so it doesn't suck.

    Also I didn't realise you could fuck up at using Illustrator but apparently I managed so whoo I guess...
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:33 No.23516092
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    4/5
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:34 No.23516095
    >>23516046

    My advice to you is to have a decent back-up plan in case all else fails.

    It's great chasing a dream, but you need something to catch you if you fall on your face.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:34 No.23516103
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    5/5 and i was just sketching this today.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:35 No.23516120
    >>23516095

    So true.

    If I fall, I'm thinking of becoming an art teacher or maybe writing.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:35 No.23516136
    >>23516045
    ....yo estudie una semana antes para mi examen...no me sorprende que no pasara...

    bueno a intentarlo de nuevo...
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:35 No.23516140
    >>23516021
    I know the song is epic, but a part of me says it's really bad
    As for it being synced to poni I don't liek it at all
    Opinion
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/15/11(Tue)23:36 No.23516153
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    now with typed text.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:37 No.23516184
    >>23516046
    This world is not kind to the "starving artist" cliche. It's a careful balancing act between living the dream and getting your "10 years" pin at Friday's while telling all your customers "I'm just waiting until my big break comes through."

    But I'm majoring in something where nobody's sure how to make money at it anymore too, so I'm certainly in no position to tell you to take the more responsible route. Idealism's more fun. Screw the practical.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:38 No.23516198
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    >>23515899
    >Rainbow frosting
    >mfw
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:38 No.23516211
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    >> *Squeak* !JuTj8x9Yww 02/15/11(Tue)23:38 No.23516214
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    >>23515986

    Sorry Rainbow Dash, it's your fault for being adorable.
    >> Mr Hate 02/15/11(Tue)23:39 No.23516238
    >>23516136
    Para no estar tan Off topic, I mean, telling you the truth about how deranged you are. Si en mi barrio agarran a un tipo de 20, 23 años con MLP, lo fajan, le pegan, lisa y llanamente. In USA it's easier to be a weirdo.
    >> Anonycat 02/15/11(Tue)23:40 No.23516241
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    >>23515947

    La serie viene con esta calidad y me llamó la atención que hayan usado los subtítulos que YO hice y distribuí en un foro antes de navidad.
    Lo tomaré como un halago... supongo.

    (For the non spanish talkers: The cartoon is being sold as bootleg DVDs by street peddlers for $ 1,000 pesos, aka roughly $ 2,20 dollars. Very cheap, considering that 1,000 pesos can get you 10 crunchy bars, or 4 blank DVDs, or 2 subway tickets.Or 2 *good* empanadas, 2.5 liters of Coca-Cola, and such...)
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:40 No.23516247
    Sorry about the fighting you guys ;_;
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:40 No.23516265
    >>23516046

    The problem with comics isn't that the art form is dying, it's that the industry and culture that pervades it is rather oppressive.

    Novels aren't a dying art form, and comics are the same thing only expressed through images rather than words. Novels would be dying art form, however, if they all catered exclusively to a relatively narrow target audience.

    If you look at the wide range of subject matter covered by novels, and compare it to the range of subject matter in the US comic industry, I think the problem becomes apparent.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:41 No.23516279
    >>23516241
    How's the quality? Any better than the FLVs?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:41 No.23516284
    >>23514334
    >>23516241
    SD rip or Dvd?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:41 No.23516292
    >>23515827
    You may want to read this
    >>23514684

    >>23516023
    I see, thanks. Nice versions, by the way.

    >>23516103
    I remember when you posted two of those, before... I think the one I liked the most now was Rarity as a horse.

    >>23516010
    Awww, you're loved, too!
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:42 No.23516320
    >>23516238
    Third world country huh..
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:43 No.23516327
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    >>23516016
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:44 No.23516354
    >>23516120
    >>23516184
    do it because you love it. i've got an english degree and i know most writers only get supplemental incomes from writing but fuck it. i don't need to make a whole bunch of money. i have a decent apt, computers, etc but i don't need a lot of expensive toys like a new sportscar etc. i do have a day job but not one that takes all my time so that i can write at night.
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)23:44 No.23516366
    >>23516279
    >>23516284
    Probably more like My Mini donkey: Adventures on harmony kind of quality
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:44 No.23516374
    >>23516238
    las mujeres no tenemos ese problema, podemos vestir de rosa y cabalgar en unicornios sin ningun remordimiento
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:44 No.23516379
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    >>23516153
    That's why I thought this was Rainbow Dash's leg
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:45 No.23516393
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    >>23516327
    I thought that was part of the thread? I'm sorry. I'll go sit in a ditch...
    >> /co/mmander jesus 02/15/11(Tue)23:45 No.23516395
    >>23516366
    that was a poor translation bootleg joke for anyone who doesn't get it
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:45 No.23516396
    >>23516198
    >completely missed the "71" cupcake
    >> Lucid !0oSwOEGDeI 02/15/11(Tue)23:45 No.23516397
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    >several separate discussions at the same time in thread
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:45 No.23516409
    >>23516241
    Man, it must be conflicting to see your subtitles used... I know I'm saving them to MAYBE translate it later. Timing them must be a pain.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:46 No.23516413
    >>23516238
    That explains why I was bullied at the age of 11 for liking Digimon. South American culture is shit.
    >> Anonycat 02/15/11(Tue)23:46 No.23516417
    >>23516284

    They seem to be DVDs made using Mentos's encodes. Not HD, but the quality is decent enough and people buys them fairly well considering how practically all street peddlers carry this series, but again, they also sell G3.5 Ponies as well.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:46 No.23516433
    >>23516397
    the horror
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:47 No.23516437
    >>23516397
    it's pretty easy to juggle conversations on here
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:47 No.23516450
    >>23516238
    Oh, i get it. You "hate" us because you can't be like us.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:47 No.23516462
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    >>23516354

    I decided about the only thing I was any good at was drawing so I went into Design (Visual Communication).

    That said, I hate my art and I've been drawing for like, 15 years now. I've seen people who could barely scribble blitz past me into professionals before I could make a tiny leap in that direction.

    Oh well, I've also seen much more horrible artists get regular work so fuck it, just got to keep at it...
    >> !2tM9jQ2u0A 02/15/11(Tue)23:48 No.23516473
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    >>23516153
    thank you noel
    i will masturbate to this later tonight
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:48 No.23516487
    >>23516397

    many and varied are the facets of the hive mind. it is many. it is one.
    >> i got nothing Sergeant Sprinkles: World's Greatest Party Clown !!zveYvhtPHtp 02/15/11(Tue)23:48 No.23516491
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    >> Anonycat 02/15/11(Tue)23:49 No.23516505
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:49 No.23516508
    >>23515982
    you might be right. i think worried looks a little better though because feeling awkward makes feeling worried usually. i suggested the eyebrows because in your first pic, part of the pony's hair looks like an eyebrow, angled in a mad expression.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:49 No.23516511
    Is anybody interested in a cheerilee yahoo messenger theme?
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:49 No.23516521
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:50 No.23516528
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    Ok, sorry for slowpoking, but I just watched the last episode and want the writer killed. I raged.

    >I leared that there are things we don't understand
    Ok
    >and sometimes you have to BEELEEVE
    NO. SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU SHOULD *RESEARCH FURTHER*.

    I was so naive. I thought that Celestia, in her final (and ultimately, pointless) appearance would give a clue as to what the hell is up with Pinkie. But no, they just had to go with breaking the rules of magic of their own fictional universe. Good job. Now everything is possible. You don't want that in fiction.

    Also, Twilight, a tip. You didn't have to take that leap of faith when you've shown you have THE ABILITY TO TELEPORT. LESS FANCY HATS AND MORE USEFUL MAGIC NEXT TIME.

    Finally, just for lulz, explain to me why that cart is flying, please.

    Ok, ok, the episode wasn't that bad, and we did get derpy. And I guess the cart can be product of an unicorn enchantment. I just didn't like the message.

    Now I go to sleep. Good night, bronies.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:50 No.23516540
    >>23516462
    Look at Peanuts. Charlie Brown looks like he has cancer. Yet that guy was successful. I mean, if you're comfortable churning out shit for the rest of your life to turn a buck like Jim Davis. Take a lesson from the creator of Two and a Half Men. That show is shit. He knows it's shit. But he says it's not about making something good, just something popular. That's where the money is.

    People are dumb, but they're the ones with the money.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:51 No.23516557
    >>23516413
    Bullshit, liking "nerd culture" will get you bullied in the North, too. Maybe anywhere, don't know about overseas.
    >> Sergeant Sprinkles: World's Greatest Party Clown !!zveYvhtPHtp 02/15/11(Tue)23:51 No.23516560
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:52 No.23516590
    >>23516528
    Message was "don't be a douche about things." You didn't learn.

    She can't teleport places she couldn't naturally reach (allegedly).

    It's strapped to Fluttershy.

    Next.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:53 No.23516606
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:53 No.23516621
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    >>23516528
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:53 No.23516633
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    >>23516511
    looks like this
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:54 No.23516645
    >>23516560
    I love everything about this
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:54 No.23516646
    >>23516462
    i do that too. i hate what i write sometimes. other times though i think, hmm not bad. and i know my skill is only improved by practice practice practice. there's a writer, jay lake, who says that all you need is psychotic persistence. he wasn't published for 10 years but he just kept at it. now he's published all the time
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:54 No.23516658
    >>23516528
    everything is magic

    THE GAME
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:54 No.23516666
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    >>23516505
    I wonder what would happen if Rainbow Dash and Rainbow Dash met.


    "...and that's why I love fashion. Tell me more about you, do you have a boyfriend?"

    "Boy-friend? uh... no, I uhm... I like girl"

    "Oh dear, that's disgusting!"

    "I though you were me!"

    "I'd never be someone like you!"


    and then they fucked
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:54 No.23516667
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    >>23514769
    All this talk about whore ponies made me want to draw a whore pony. Sorry for the lack of colors, someone stole most my markers :(
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:54 No.23516668
    >>23516590
    I think Applebuck Season happened last, after she's had some practice. I mean that time she was teleporting all over the place seemed like practice to me.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:55 No.23516684
    >>23516379
    i still don't see it...
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:55 No.23516685
    >>23516528
    This is a stage everybody goes through with this episode. Don't worry, it only lasts a day or so.

    Also, Lauren apologized on her DA account that the message got so screwed up. It wasn't meant to be "don't think."
    >> Sergeant Sprinkles: World's Greatest Party Clown !!zveYvhtPHtp 02/15/11(Tue)23:56 No.23516704
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    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:57 No.23516730
    >>23516540
    who's to say you can't alternate? do a project for cash, then do a project because you want to. rinse and repeat
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:57 No.23516733
    >>23516646
    Journalist here. I part envy you guys because of your longer deadlines, but then I remember that without getting published you're basically screwed for money on that front, and that I might have to produce constantly, but I also get paid constantly.

    I wanted to be a novelist like, but the financial insecurity is too much. But it's really all I can do, so journalist it was. See? Combine the practical with the ideal and meet somewhere in the middle.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:58 No.23516752
    >>23516685
    Also "don't talk shit about my Bigfoot", in a minor way.
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/15/11(Tue)23:58 No.23516758
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    >>23516666

    6666! that happens when RD and RD met
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/15/11(Tue)23:58 No.23516760
    >>23516528
    Twilight has Plot Magic. It only works when it will contribute to the plot.
    >> Anonymous 02/15/11(Tue)23:58 No.23516761
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    >>23516528
    Ain't no rhyme or reason
    No complicated meaning
    Ain't no need to over-think it
    Let go, laughing
    Life don't go quite like you planned it
    We try so hard to understand it
    The irrefutable, indisputable fact is
    Pshh It happens
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/15/11(Tue)23:58 No.23516767
    >>23516473
    Why did this make me laugh so loudly?


    Alright I'm done with my soapboxy art ramblings for tonight; thanks for putting up with them.
    >> Sergeant Sprinkles: World's Greatest Party Clown !!zveYvhtPHtp 02/15/11(Tue)23:59 No.23516798
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    i'm trying to be grim or depressing cuz i don't want ruin everyone else's fun, but can i get a pony version of this, preferably Twilight?
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:00 No.23516813
    >>23516733
    jay lake gets published all the time but he still has a day job. i'm resigned to this. if i could somehow have just a part time job because the writing paid enough, that would be great
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:00 No.23516819
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    >>23516666
    ----------^^^^^^^ nice
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:01 No.23516833
    >>23516767
    Pretty sure people could PAY you for that.
    Damn, I could pay you in rap dollaz if I could find the damn image.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:01 No.23516852
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    >>23516758
    Do it
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:02 No.23516858
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    >>23516798
    twilight holding a gun to her head. hooves. gun. trigger. guuuuuuuuh?
    >> Tripfag McGee !NHqdxYQAec 02/16/11(Wed)00:02 No.23516868
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    >>23516528
    It's obviously a dig at skeptics and scientists who are so blinded with bias that they cannot even professionally do what their status implies, rejecting results because they do match up with theirs. Perhaps it's too deep for you. Nah just shitting you. They really could have worded it a whole lot better. Only flaw with an otherwise glorious episode.

    Flying cart: BECAUSE

    Also, one of her big accomplishments in the art of magic is growing facial hair on baby dragons. I'm pretty sure she is not experienced enough to travel across a 60+ foot chasm on an elevated surface.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:02 No.23516873
    >>23516646

    That's it in a nutshell, yeah.

    For me, I look back six months and go 'oh god, I was that bad?' but then I hate my new stuff about a month after I've made some improvements.

    Got a sketch pending that I love but I don't have the guts to work on. Right now my biggest problem's just figuring out how to finish a sketch in a way I won't hate.

    Really need to try painting it properly or something... or go back to the way I was comfortable with and try learning to do that better...

    I can't seem to get used to using a tablet for anything other than colouring.

    And to the other guy, I have every intention of improving as best I can, I hate the idea of stagnating. Mostly right now I just want some financial stability though, even some shitty little job. I'm not picky.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:02 No.23516876
    >>23516858
    She can lift an ursa minor with magic I'm sure she can hold a gun.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:02 No.23516877
    >>23516633
    I also have one without the face on the left, but I guess no one cares so whatevers
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:02 No.23516878
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    Hey guys.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vdYBzAgRmU
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:03 No.23516892
    >>23516858
    levitation
    magic
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/16/11(Wed)00:03 No.23516897
    >>23516852
    would I?
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:05 No.23516928
    >>23516798
    Hey, whatever news got you in a bad mood... that won't help, dude. Maybe reading something funny, listening to good music?
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:05 No.23516933
    I'm in love with Rarity but I don't want to be a furfag or waifu fag? What do I do?
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:05 No.23516935
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    >>23516897
    a comic where they meet?
    >> Knigh/tg/uy 02/16/11(Wed)00:06 No.23516961
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    >>23515224
    I still suck at this. My sketches feel better, but I can't edit for the life of me.
    >> kloudmutt 02/16/11(Wed)00:06 No.23516962
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    tiem for more panty ponies,

    i was gonna doooo... zecora in animal print
    >> madmax !hWP6CL.q42 02/16/11(Wed)00:07 No.23516979
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    >>23516935
    and then they become friends
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:07 No.23516982
    >>23516877
    I don't know what Yahoo message is, I don't use it I mean

    I'm still waiting for the Gilda firefox theme
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:07 No.23516983
    >>23516933
    "Guys I want to eat nothing but ice cream but don't want to get fat."

    Just deal with it. Why does it even matter?
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:07 No.23516986
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    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:07 No.23516990
    >>23516933

    Build a shrine.

    Tell no one.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517008
    >>23516933
    I'm in 100% platonic love with mai kawaii yuri waifu Rainbow
    but I'm not a waifufag or furfag
    Promise
    Just express your love
    Buy a Rarity Poni
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517011
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    >>23516979
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517012
    Oh man, I lied, but it is breaking my heart to see you guys talking about art-hate. I had to reword this because darn you Zecora, get out of my brain.

    Why, why? Is it frustration over not getting things right? Are you getting too caught up in details? What can I possibly do to help you guys stop that? Anything? I think the entire world is so amazing and full of people who can do anything at all, it is such a pity to see people not being happy with themselves and their own creative works. (Not complacent, but happy.)
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517017
    >>23516962
    I_can_fap_to_this.bmp
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517020
    >>23516878
    I know I shouldn't but... I Raged so very very fucking hard. I was about to sleep too....FUCK NOW IM PISSED
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517027
    New General
    >>23517002
    >> Wolf Nanaki !3iI3gbP0ac 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517032
    >>23516878
    God, I fucking hate these GEEWUNS. They're all over the MLP Facebook page too. "THE NEW PONIES ARE UGLY CHANGE THEM BACK OR I WILL KICK AND SCREAM!"
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:08 No.23517034
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    >>23516986
    reminds me of
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/16/11(Wed)00:09 No.23517040
    >>23517012
    End spoiler fail but the point still stands!
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:10 No.23517073
    >>23516878
    >>23517020
    >26 views
    >uploaded today
    Oh hi the uploader of the video. Trying to get some rage views, huh? Your video is about as rage-worthy as a warm sunny day.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:12 No.23517122
    >>23516962
    >>23516962

    SNAILS

    pretty please
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:12 No.23517135
    >>23517032
    this. they were ugly as sin before, they didn't look anything like horses then, and they look even less like horses now, and nobody should really give a fuck. at least they're fucking cute now. old gens made me want to vomit up my lungs
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:12 No.23517137
    >>23516684
    I see it. After reading >>23516153 it looks like a piece of hip
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:12 No.23517150
    >>23517012
    Hating our own work is actually pretty common for writers and (what I heart) artists as well. I'd rather be my harshest critic than my greatest sycophant.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:13 No.23517167
    >>23517040
    Nah dude, that's how we improve, right? The big problem is getting a good job at that and keeping up with the best.
    >> Sergeant Sprinkles: World's Greatest Party Clown !!zveYvhtPHtp 02/16/11(Wed)00:13 No.23517169
    >>23516646
    almost everyone has said Trespasser is, for the most part, pretty good, one of my best.
    i am so negatively self-consciousness about praise that i now, after trying to edit it further, i am afraid to submit it to Equestria Daily.
    after the backlash of the other one, i've been very hesitant to write something else for fear i screw it up again.
    i know i shouldn't be, but can't help it.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:13 No.23517171
    >>23516878

    I lawl'd so hard. she's got no taste in design.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:13 No.23517183
    >>23517137
    It's too small
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:13 No.23517189
    >>23517073
    >I've never heard of the "search by date uploaded" function.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:13 No.23517193
    >>23516962

    Rainbow Dash.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:14 No.23517204
    >>23517150
    i like my own work, but nobody ever comments on it because i always end up posting at the same time as the good drawfriends
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:15 No.23517242
    >>23517204
    I know that feel bro.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:16 No.23517262
    >>23516878
    >Bitching about Rarity's toy using hoof-hands
    >G3 used hoof-hands like SEVEN HUNDRED TIMES MORE THAN G4

    Stupid kid.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:16 No.23517278
    >>23517204

    Same here. Feels like shit, bro.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:17 No.23517307
    >>23517012

    For me it's a lot of stuff... stuff which probably doesn't bare mentioning.

    Kind of annoyed I don't have a single pony pic I've finished and like enough to use as a 'best of' pic to show you where I'm at.

    Mostly just trying to stay positive enough to keep practising, I know it's the only way I'll get over this hurdle. And the next one. And so on.

    At least I'm mostly happy with my sketches now, at least, the best, properly done ones. Again though, for this show I've mostly done quick tablet stuff that I ended up hating or it's traced from official poses, quick design stuff that I wasn't really ever intending to be anything other than a rough guide for later.

    Anyway, we'll see how we go. I did sketch a human pinkie pie this morning... just sort of standing there in the nude. Considering I'm leaning into a more cartoony style now I don't know whether I should post it or not anywho (and again, design sketch, nothing going on of much value... just static character design).

    We'll see how we go I guess
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:18 No.23517310
    New thread

    >>23517002
    >>23517002
    >>23517002
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:18 No.23517337
    >>23516878
    so, how many angry comments are there by now?
    >> SlyWit !tedl177Zx2 02/16/11(Wed)00:19 No.23517348
    >>23517204
    You know, I've been thinking. I remember hearing about this Writer competition, and it was shot down (rightfully so, else we repeat a Fall Weather Friends episode, /co/ style). But the spirit of it was to help make people feel appreciated for contributing.

    What if instead of a competition, we have a Comment On A Writefriend/Drawfriend day? Rules being that you repost an artwork or story and leave a comment about it. The less comments on that story or art, the better it is to repost and comment?

    I know a ton of people are looking at art and reading stories without leaving a peep
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/16/11(Wed)00:19 No.23517353
    >>23517169
    Tch. I haven't read Trespasser (That's your Gilda/Big Mac torture fic, isn't it?), but even though its content isn't my cup of tea, Cupcake(s?) was pretty well written. To the point where I have urgings to write something in a similar vein (which is a HUGE step in the opposite direction compared to the saccharine stuff I'm known for on EqD).

    There's always Equestria-After-Dark for the more salacious and vile fanfics, you know. Might not get the traffic that EqD does, but it's still something.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:20 No.23517376
    >>23517337
    None, and there shouldn't be, because there's nothing to be angry about.

    >STOP DISLIKING WHAT I LIKE
    >> Scherzo !4LamsTHETA 02/16/11(Wed)00:21 No.23517403
    >>23517193
    Dash strikes me as a thong sort, honestly. That would be tricky to fit on a pony.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:22 No.23517409
    >>23517310
    Someone move the General Image, I'm out for rest.
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/16/11(Wed)00:22 No.23517425
    >>23517150
    I really dont believe that you need to hate your work to be a good critic of yourself. I think artists and writers should know where their flaws are, yes, and should always be learning new thinks and getting better, but I honestly think it shows, how you feel about your own art. If you're angry and frustrated, I think people looking at it wont be as happy because you were unhappy. (or reading it, this applies to anything creative, I think.)

    I love to draw. I love spending my time as an artist and learning new things and working more to improve, or maybe just drawing something silly and pointless because it makes me smile.

    I just think it is so much healthier to have a mindset of be the best at what you do because you love it, not because you hated yourself into being better.

    Don't people draw because it is fun?
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:24 No.23517471
    >>23517169
    I love your writing
    >>23517353
    You must write
    not enough gore
    >> Noel !GB2VtITMOM 02/16/11(Wed)00:26 No.23517547
    >>23517204
    I honestly am really shy when it comes to talking to people/responding - that includes commenting on art. I know, I know. I'm shooting my mouth off a lot tonight for someone who is shy. I think I've talked more tonight than I have in the last /year/ on 4c. If you want to post a picture(s) in the new thread, I will do my best to comment or critique if you want it! (If they're porny, I may have problems.)
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:29 No.23517634
    >>23517547

    >My Little Porny

    hat's pretty much what these threads devolved into.
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:30 No.23517653
    >>23517353
    You wrote DashDJ? My favorite story
    >> Wild Cherry Lollipop caluriri 02/16/11(Wed)00:31 No.23517686
    >>23517425
    im agree with you and i dont hate my work i just know i can become better i draw because is funny
    and like the people said the grass is more green in the others yard
    >> Anonymous 02/16/11(Wed)00:32 No.23517719
    >>23517348
    Well, that was sort of the point behind the Friend-off... getting fanart of your fic or a fanfic of your art should be pretty flattering, you know. That's a way to know you did something right.

    It's just some fanarts, for instance, take a lot of work to turn into a fanfic. Like, that image of Fluttershy riding a dragon could spawn something epic, but wouldn't be easy to do.

    >>23517425
    Pretty much, but when you start drawing, sometimes you have expectations for the result, and when the result is below expected... that's where it gets complicated.



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